What are the best?

[IFRT-WHUFC]

Ati Radeon settings?

any help would be appreciated!

thanks
Rick

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

The no anti-aliasing is always a PITA isn't it? Hard to make out masts without AA

Using the ATI Catalyst CP:

Anti-Aliasing: 24x Edge Detect. This is a frame rate killer, make sure your PC can handle it. With 8x Box, I get 120fps in port, 300-400fps at sea (including convoys). With 24x Edge Detect, I get 50-60fps in port, 200-300fps at sea (including convoys). As you can see, it only really matters in a port with lots of buildings, aircraft, and ships around.

Adaptive Anti-Aliasing: For transparent textures. I don't notice much of any difference between performance and quality in SH3 for this setting, then again, is there anything transparent in SH3?

Anisotropic Filtering: 16x

Catalyst A.I.: Advanced

Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality

As stated above, the only major framerate difference I saw was when changing the anti-aliasing settings. Everything looks significantly better with the 24x Edge Detect filter than with the 8x Box filter, and my PC could handle it even in port so I went with it.

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PC Specs:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition (3.2GHz) Socket AM3
MoBo: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AMD 790FX chipset
RAM: OCZ SpecOps 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
GPU: XFX ATI Radeon HD 4890 Xtreme, 1GB 256-bit PCI-E 2.0 DirectX 10.1, DDR5 Core Clock: 875MHz, Memory Clock: 3.9GHz

[nikbear]

Kptlt.S, What does Catalyst A.I.: Advanced setting doI'm an ATi user and I'm at a loss as to what some of the settings do

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

Originally Posted by nikbear

Kptlt.S, What does Catalyst A.I.: Advanced setting doI'm an ATi user and I'm at a loss as to what some of the settings do

The Catalyst AI Setting controls the algorithm used to optimize graphics performance. In most cases, Standard is good enough. I cant see a reason for wanting to disable it, you'll just get slower performance. You can think of it as a framerate booster. That's a really basic way of putting it without getting into the nitty gritty. In games where textures are loaded frequently, or on a slow machine, then Standard will work better than Advanced. I use Advanced for SH3 since there really isn't textures being loaded frequently (as compared to say a first-person shooter or an air combat game, all that ground detail for example, or debris falling off of damaged planes, bullets, flak, etc.). My framerate with Cat AI set to standard in SH3 is slightly (but barely) lower than with advanced. Cat AI can also, in some occasions, increase image quality.

[IFRT-WHUFC]

Thanks that was a great explanation! havn't had an Ati card for well a decade or more was wondering what all the box and other settings were for!

Cheers!!
Rick

[nikbear]

Thanks for the info Kptlt. Siegmann,I don't suppose you have any sites to recommend about settings for GFX cards,I used to have one that explained everything but its been lost since a rebuild

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

For those using ATI cards with the Catalyst CP, here is [my opinion] the most useful guide.

http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

Cheerio!

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Siegmann

For those using ATI cards with the Catalyst CP, here is [my opinion] the most useful guide.

http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

Cheerio!

I'll second that.

Catalyst AI unfortunately does rather a lot of things. I say "unfortunately" because it would be nice to be able to turn some of them off and leave some of them on... but anyway... the main thing I wanted to say (because it isn't covered in the TweakGuides.com article) is that disabling Catalyst AI in the CCC does not always fully disable it. Frequently, in order to fully disable it (which can be a good idea sometimes) you have to disable it in the CCC and rename your game executable. So for example you might rename SH3.exe to MyGame01.exe (or whatever).

[nikbear]

Thank you for the Guide,I shall to give it a good read I was wondering Kptlt. Siegmann what kind of FPS hit you got when enabling Catalyst A.I At the moment mine is set to standard on a ATi Radeon 1950 Pro,P4 3.06 chip,2Gigs Ram.Do you reckon I could get away with enabling it Always looking for ways to enhance the visuals,With all that GWX gives you its not suprising

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Siegmann

With 8x Box, I get 120fps in port, 300-400fps at sea (including convoys). With 24x Edge Detect, I get 50-60fps in port, 200-300fps at sea (including convoys).

Catalyst A.I.: Advanced

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PC Specs:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition (3.2GHz) Socket AM3
MoBo: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AMD 790FX chipset
RAM: OCZ SpecOps 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
GPU: XFX ATI Radeon HD 4890 Xtreme, 1GB 256-bit PCI-E 2.0 DirectX 10.1, DDR5 Core Clock: 875MHz, Memory Clock: 3.9GHz

[bobchase]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I'll second that.

Catalyst AI unfortunately does rather a lot of things. I say "unfortunately" because it would be nice to be able to turn some of them off and leave some of them on... but anyway... the main thing I wanted to say (because it isn't covered in the TweakGuides.com article) is that disabling Catalyst AI in the CCC does not always fully disable it. Frequently, in order to fully disable it (which can be a good idea sometimes) you have to disable it in the CCC and rename your game executable. So for example you might rename SH3.exe to MyGame01.exe (or whatever).

Have you tried the Omega ATI Drivers instead of using Catalyst? http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php

Much less overhead on your system.

Bob

[nikbear]

I've lowered my Mip-map level by 1 from quality and enabled temporal AA,problem is I can't tell if its improved matters cause now I'm looking at everything where as before I wasn'tI'm starting to see GFX probs that probably weren't there before Curse my crap eyes

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by bobchase

Have you tried the Omega ATI Drivers instead of using Catalyst? http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php

Much less overhead on your system.

Bob

Yes, I've tried them before. For me they cause problems in certain games (including SH3) so I no longer use them. I'm not sure what this has to do with Catalyst AI though? Please explain?