Time to move on now...

Akula4745 · 05-22-09, 07:45 PM

Ok, pretty much everyone said play the stock game so you'll know what has changed. I think I have. Sure I had trouble with the photo recon at Koror (I did everything but throw rocks at those DDs and they would not get out of my way... oh well, maybe photo recon is not my field of expertise)... but after my last patrol... Oct - Dec, 1942 (with a refresh/reload stop in the Solomons) - I had 34 kills for a rather unbelievable 183K tons.

Methinks it is time to move on to the next level... so what is the concensus for the next step? RFB + RSRDC? Gentlemen, I rest my immediate future in your capable hands...

Task Force · 05-22-09, 07:51 PM

Sure. Id go give RFB, and the RSRD campaign, you will not get that much tonage. as the ships in rsrd are harder to find.

Rockin Robbins · 05-22-09, 07:57 PM

I say an S-Boat career with RFB/RSRD is just what the doctor ordered!

Task Force · 05-22-09, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

I say an S-Boat career with RFB/RSRD is just what the doctor ordered!

Yea, and from what ive seen the S boat torps seem to work well.

Platapus · 05-22-09, 08:06 PM

One thing is not clear: What realism level were you playing?

186K on one patrol is pretty incredible. If you were doing this with 90% reality, you have my deepest respect.

Unless you are playing with manual targeting, I don't think that RFB or TMO will be giving you alot.

I think you should stay with the stock game but play on the higher realism levels. Once you get the hang of manual targeting (the whole purpose of the sim, IMHO) then you will more fully appreciate the work put in to the super-mods.

Or you can just jump in to the mods

YMMV

AVGWarhawk · 05-22-09, 08:18 PM

Yes, the S boats torps work great....the problem is puttering along at 12 kts full tilt....end rounds are awfully long....

Torplexed · 05-22-09, 08:32 PM

I'd go with RFB/RSRD as well. It doesn't throw the uber-DDs at you like TMO sometime does.

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

Sure I had trouble with the photo recon at Koror (I did everything but throw rocks at those DDs and they would not get out of my way... oh well, maybe photo recon is not my field of expertise)...

Don't give up on those photo-recon missions. It can be quite rewarding. HQ always appreciates those Tushi Maru pictures.

Akula4745 · 05-22-09, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

One thing is not clear: What realism level were you playing?

186K on one patrol is pretty incredible. If you were doing this with 90% reality, you have my deepest respect.

No respect necessary, kind sir... I was playing with 60% +/-. Love that external view... just too dang pretty to pass on. I hope to eventually master manual targeting... but at the same time I am one of those who lets his officers do the targeting. I mean, after all... isn't that what a weapons officer is for? I will bump up the difficulty some tho... not sure where and what yet.

LMAO Torp! Love the pic! Sounds like the consensus is RFB + RSRDC...

Armistead · 05-22-09, 09:57 PM

I would say load TMO. The AI is really easy if you do the right things.
I remember stock where you can sink the entire jap fleet with one career.
I play at 90%, cams on, contacts off. Use the cams just for SS or if I get in a hurry I'll take some peeks, but it's really a cheat cam.

Learn to manual target. Really your just entering factors and your TDC is doing the work...a fair balance.

The duds will drive you nuts, so carry plenty M10's early war, not as powerful, but they work.

The good thing about mods is they nerfed the deckgun. Still too powerful IMO, but it will take 40 rounds to sink a ship, the 40 becomes useless against ships. With TMO the ships will shoot you to pieces at much further ranges than stock.

Munchausen · 05-23-09, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula4745

I mean, after all... isn't that what a weapons officer is for?

I don't think there was a weapons officer in the entire Pacific who could manage the accuracy of auto-targeting.

Stealhead · 05-23-09, 08:56 PM

Why must one play the stock game forever before loading up either RFB or TMO? To me this is very pointless as you dont have to play the stock game at max then get tired of and move on to something else.Hell you dont have to play the stock game a at high realism if you dont want to. With both RFB and TMO you can play things at 0% all the way to 100% if you so desire to me either will sufice when ever you fill like loading them go for it. To be playing stock at what ever level you play at to "get the feel" before you move on is off base. You dont stay in bad relationship with a woman when you know there are better women for you out there so why do such a thing with anything else I ask?(I am married by the way but it sucked I wouldnt be)

Akula try every mod run a career in each go for it man and kick your self once for having waited so long.

Jump in feet first you wont drown I promise.I will trow you life vest if you do.

Armistead · 05-23-09, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Why must one play the stock game forever before loading up either RFB or TMO? To me this is very pointless as you dont have to play the stock game at max then get tired of and move on to something else.Hell you dont have to play the stock game a at high realism if you dont want to. With both RFB and TMO you can play things at 0% all the way to 100% if you so desire to me either will sufice when ever you fill like loading them go for it. To be playing stock at what ever level you play at to "get the feel" before you move on is off base. You dont stay in bad relationship with a woman when you know there are better women for you out there so why do such a thing with anything else I ask?(I am married by the way but it sucked I wouldnt be)

Akula try every mod run a career in each go for it man and kick your self once for having waited so long.

Jump in feet first you wont drown I promise.I will trow you life vest if you do.

I totally agree and have always said the same. Why eat a hotdog when you can have steak. It may be good to play stock for a few patrols just so you can have the wow factor of the mods and see how much difference they make, but that's all.
You play stock, it really doesn't prepare you for mods. In fact, you have to relearn the game so to speak.

Akula4745 · 05-24-09, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

You dont stay in bad relationship with a woman when you know there are better women for you out there...

LOL Stealhead... where the heck were you with this advice in 1984????

Thanks sir. Playing RFB now and loving it so far...

05-22-09, 07:45 PM	#1
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	Time to move on now... Ok, pretty much everyone said play the stock game so you'll know what has changed. I think I have. Sure I had trouble with the photo recon at Koror (I did everything but throw rocks at those DDs and they would not get out of my way... oh well, maybe photo recon is not my field of expertise)... but after my last patrol... Oct - Dec, 1942 (with a refresh/reload stop in the Solomons) - I had 34 kills for a rather unbelievable 183K tons. Methinks it is time to move on to the next level... so what is the concensus for the next step? RFB + RSRDC? Gentlemen, I rest my immediate future in your capable hands... __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu" Last edited by Akula4745; 05-28-09 at 05:48 PM.

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Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Sure. Id go give RFB, and the RSRD campaign, you will not get that much tonage. as the ships in rsrd are harder to find. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

05-22-09, 07:57 PM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I say an S-Boat career with RFB/RSRD is just what the doctor ordered! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

05-22-09, 08:06 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	One thing is not clear: What realism level were you playing? 186K on one patrol is pretty incredible. If you were doing this with 90% reality, you have my deepest respect. Unless you are playing with manual targeting, I don't think that RFB or TMO will be giving you alot. I think you should stay with the stock game but play on the higher realism levels. Once you get the hang of manual targeting (the whole purpose of the sim, IMHO) then you will more fully appreciate the work put in to the super-mods. Or you can just jump in to the mods YMMV __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-22-09, 08:18 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yes, the S boats torps work great....the problem is puttering along at 12 kts full tilt....end rounds are awfully long.... __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-22-09, 09:57 PM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I would say load TMO. The AI is really easy if you do the right things. I remember stock where you can sink the entire jap fleet with one career. I play at 90%, cams on, contacts off. Use the cams just for SS or if I get in a hurry I'll take some peeks, but it's really a cheat cam. Learn to manual target. Really your just entering factors and your TDC is doing the work...a fair balance. The duds will drive you nuts, so carry plenty M10's early war, not as powerful, but they work. The good thing about mods is they nerfed the deckgun. Still too powerful IMO, but it will take 40 rounds to sink a ship, the 40 becomes useless against ships. With TMO the ships will shoot you to pieces at much further ranges than stock.

05-23-09, 08:56 PM	#11
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Why must one play the stock game forever before loading up either RFB or TMO? To me this is very pointless as you dont have to play the stock game at max then get tired of and move on to something else.Hell you dont have to play the stock game a at high realism if you dont want to. With both RFB and TMO you can play things at 0% all the way to 100% if you so desire to me either will sufice when ever you fill like loading them go for it. To be playing stock at what ever level you play at to "get the feel" before you move on is off base. You dont stay in bad relationship with a woman when you know there are better women for you out there so why do such a thing with anything else I ask?(I am married by the way but it sucked I wouldnt be) Akula try every mod run a career in each go for it man and kick your self once for having waited so long. Jump in feet first you wont drown I promise.I will trow you life vest if you do.