Swine flu update

FIREWALL · 04-29-09, 12:06 PM

It don't look good.

And there is no vaccine for the Swine Flu as just told on Channel 5 KTLA news.

AVGWarhawk · 04-29-09, 12:27 PM

In 1976 the swine flu was discovered at Fort Dix NJ. They attempted to make a vaccine but the side effects were not favorable so it was abandoned. Rest and plenty of fluids. There are two drugs that will help getting over the flu and not all require this drug to successfully combat this flu. Like any sickness, rest and fluids are the best medicine.

TDK1044 · 04-29-09, 12:28 PM

Why would they expect there to be a vaccine at this stage? Flu mutates constantly, so new strains are bound to emerge. Pigs can also be infected with both the human and avian influenza. This swine flu strain appears to contain genetic elements from all three. It's going to take a while to develop a vaccine.

Swine flu is apparantly resistant to two of the common used drugs, namely Amantadine and Rimantadine. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are very different from human H1N1 viruses. Therefore, current vaccines for human seasonal flu will not provide any protection at all.

However, a little bird, who is usually right on the money, tells me that a seed vaccine has been specifically tailored to this swine flu and will be manufactured if the CDC deems it necessary.

A Very Super Market · 04-29-09, 12:33 PM

Stop being paranoid. 30,000 people die of normal influenza in the US in a regular year. Swine flu has managed to kill only 20, and the majority of patients survive. This isn't massive respiratory collapse, this is just a slightly stronger flu.

AVGWarhawk · 04-29-09, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

Why would they expect there to be a vaccine at this stage? Flu mutates constantly, so new strains are bound to emerge. Pigs can also be infected with both the human and avian influenza. This swine flu strain appears to contain genetic elements from all three. It's going to take a while to develop a vaccine.

The 1976 outbreak strain is very different than this strain. The little buggers mutate as you stated. Hard to keep ahead of it. Vaccines take months to develop and test. Not always successful either. This virus, like most virus, are tricky changing nasty buggers.

SteamWake · 04-29-09, 12:35 PM

Good lord 3 threads on the topic now.

The topic is as virual as the real thing.

AVGWarhawk · 04-29-09, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Stop being paranoid. 30,000 people die of normal influenza in the US in a regular year. Swine flu has managed to kill only 20, and the majority of patients survive. This isn't massive respiratory collapse, this is just a slightly stronger flu.

The death toll has been overstated. I'm suspecting some panic here and over-reaction. The 1976 outbreak at Fort Dix NJ appeared and dissappeared in a month.

AVGWarhawk · 04-29-09, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Good lord 3 threads on the topic now.

The topic is as virual as the real thing.

IT IS SPREADING LIKE A VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO NOT COUGH ON YOUR COMPUTER!

TDK1044 · 04-29-09, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Good lord 3 threads on the topic now.

The topic is as virual as the real thing.

They are mutating!!! Nurse...the screens!!!

SteamWake · 04-29-09, 12:38 PM

Dont fear the reaper !

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108941/

A Very Super Market · 04-29-09, 12:40 PM

Incidentally, I am sick as well, though It's been diagnosed as nothing more than the normal flu. Meh.

XabbaRus · 04-29-09, 12:41 PM

Well I was listening to the radio and swine flu is a misnomer. Nothing to do with pigs.

TDK1044 · 04-29-09, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well I was listening to the radio and swine flu is a misnomer. Nothing to do with pigs.

Change channels. Swine Flu is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A strains of the influenza virus. There are four main sub-types of the virus, but the most recent cases have been H1N1 viruses.

ReallyDedPoet · 04-29-09, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well I was listening to the radio and swine flu is a misnomer. Nothing to do with pigs.

On that note it is to bad that another name could not be given to these things.

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Swine flu cannot be spread by pork products, since the virus is not transmitted through food. From Wikipedia

Given the economic crisis, this will not help the Pork Industry.

SteamWake · 04-29-09, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well I was listening to the radio and swine flu is a misnomer. Nothing to do with pigs.

bwah ha ha... theres even people whom are 'offended' by the name 'swine flue'... :rotfl:

04-29-09, 12:06 PM	#1
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Swine flu update It don't look good. And there is no vaccine for the Swine Flu as just told on Channel 5 KTLA news. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-29-09, 12:27 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	In 1976 the swine flu was discovered at Fort Dix NJ. They attempted to make a vaccine but the side effects were not favorable so it was abandoned. Rest and plenty of fluids. There are two drugs that will help getting over the flu and not all require this drug to successfully combat this flu. Like any sickness, rest and fluids are the best medicine. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-29-09, 12:33 PM	#4
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stop being paranoid. 30,000 people die of normal influenza in the US in a regular year. Swine flu has managed to kill only 20, and the majority of patients survive. This isn't massive respiratory collapse, this is just a slightly stronger flu. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

04-29-09, 12:35 PM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Good lord 3 threads on the topic now. The topic is as virual as the real thing. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-29-09, 12:38 PM	#10
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Dont fear the reaper ! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108941/ __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

04-29-09, 12:28 PM	#3
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Why would they expect there to be a vaccine at this stage? Flu mutates constantly, so new strains are bound to emerge. Pigs can also be infected with both the human and avian influenza. This swine flu strain appears to contain genetic elements from all three. It's going to take a while to develop a vaccine. Swine flu is apparantly resistant to two of the common used drugs, namely Amantadine and Rimantadine. The H1N1 swine flu viruses are very different from human H1N1 viruses. Therefore, current vaccines for human seasonal flu will not provide any protection at all. However, a little bird, who is usually right on the money, tells me that a seed vaccine has been specifically tailored to this swine flu and will be manufactured if the CDC deems it necessary.

04-29-09, 12:40 PM	#11
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Incidentally, I am sick as well, though It's been diagnosed as nothing more than the normal flu. Meh. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

04-29-09, 12:41 PM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well I was listening to the radio and swine flu is a misnomer. Nothing to do with pigs. __________________