crash at dunkirk

[Leg]

Hello everyone,
It's around 27 of may 1940, I'm running gwx 3.0 with some other small mods like the long repair time, the life boats, the sh4 effects, the water stream, q ships and some other ships (laconia, rex, duilio, queen mary ecc). The evacquation of dunkirk is going to happen. Alas, when I save and quit the game and try to reload it crashes, always. I've noticed it happens after I've been for a while in the area around Dunkirk, and if I save the game in that area. That's a big issue as I cannot save in that zone, and every time I save I dont know if I could load again the game or restart from a far save and do everything again and again.

[A Very Super Market]

Probably because of the large amount of other ships during the evacuation. It is a known bug that causes saves to CTD, so I recomment that you get clear of that area before saving next time.

[Leg]

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Probably because of the large amount of other ships during the evacuation. It is a known bug that causes saves to CTD, so I recomment that you get clear of that area before saving next time.

How far from that area should I go to save the game?

[melnibonian]

Originally Posted by Leg

How far from that area should I go to save the game?

The rule of thumb in SH3 regarding saving the game is:
1. Always save while you're on the surface
2. Never save close to other units (enemy or friendly)
3. Save at least 50Km away from land (100Km is even better)

[A Very Super Market]

Do a hydrophone check, and if you hear anything, you aren't far enough.

[Leg]

Originally Posted by melnibonian

The rule of thumb in SH3 regarding saving the game is:
1. Always save while you're on the surface
2. Never save close to other units (enemy or friendly)
3. Save at least 50Km away from land (100Km is even better)

Yes I've always tried to respect the all of them; quite difficult in the dunkirk area though. I've tried to save at least at 60\70km from the shore but with no success, I've tried to save in the same point where I had reloaded without crashing, I retured there to save but after two saves in that same point (in different moments of course) at the third I couldn't reload as it kept crashing. I'll try to save even more far from the area and see what happens, if not I don't really know what to do..

[Jimbuna]

There is a possibility of an id conflict in the vessels used by the campaign layer in this area.

BBW would be the best/most appropriate person to hunt it down.

If your up for it, open the Mission Editor and investigate the Campaign_Scr layer....you may notice two similarly named but different vessel types.

[Leg]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

There is a possibility of an id conflict in the vessels used by the campaign layer in this area.

BBW would be the best/most appropriate person to hunt it down.

If your up for it, open the Mission Editor and investigate the Campaign_Scr layer....you may notice two similarly named but different vessel types.

So can this problem be solved?


I've opened the file but dont know what to do.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Leg

So can this problem be solved?


I've opened the file but dont know what to do.

Open Missio Editor (you've already done that) and open the Campaign_Scr.mis file.

Set the calendar at the top to your required time period and the file details/units and their positions will display before you.

Zoom in to the area your enquiring about (Dunkirk) and look for duplicate entries for different units.

Long and laborius I'll admit....but the best way.

[Leg]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Open Missio Editor (you've already done that) and open the Campaign_Scr.mis file.

Set the calendar at the top to your required time period and the file details/units and their positions will display before you.

Zoom in to the area your enquiring about (Dunkirk) and look for duplicate entries for different units.

Long and laborius I'll admit....but the best way.

In the Campaing_scr.mis file in the area of Dunkirk I've found what I think it is a convoy called Dunkirk DD 3 inside there are:
PP Troop Transport#11
DD V&W Class#6
CL Fiji Class#3
DD V&W Class
DD V&W Class
PP Troop Transport#13


Is one of these V&W wrong?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Leg

In the Campaing_scr.mis file in the area of Dunkirk I've found what I think it is a convoy called Dunkirk DD 3 inside there are:
PP Troop Transport#11
DD V&W Class#6
CL Fiji Class#3
DD V&W Class
DD V&W Class
PP Troop Transport#13


Is one of these V&W wrong?

Can't say for sure, I'm not on my gaming machine.

Back up the Campaign file somewhere safe then delete one DD V&W Class and save the altered file then run the game under as close to the conditions you can recall.

If your efforts are successful....well done, consider yourself a game modder

[Leg]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Can't say for sure, I'm not on my gaming machine.

Back up the Campaign file somewhere safe then delete one DD V&W Class and save the altered file then run the game under as close to the conditions you can recall.

If your efforts are successful....well done, consider yourself a game modder

Well, I've edited the name of one of these DD but it crashed again.. the next I coud try just to delete one of these dd...
I've a doubt as well... could it be a wreck of ship boat sunk, to cause the crash? The seafloor is quit low, and they remain on it without disappearing.
Anyhow I'll try tomorrow, now it's quite late... Alas the game takes everytime 10 mins to load, quite time consuming..
I hope we'll sort out this dunkirk affaire.

[Leg]

done another test this morning, changin the name of the others DD of the convoys; I also tried to save quite far from the zone.. near ostende and zeebrugge (always at least 50km from them), this time when the game loaded I had like a mine coillision.... water entereing from everywhere and ppl dieing almost instantly. The death screen said it was a collision... Uh I was on surface. Watching with the mission editor the campaign scr I noticed in that zone starts the huge minefield around the eastern coast of uk. Anyhow it's getting annoying.

[nikbear]

I've had this happen to me every time I've tried to attack anything around the Dunkirk evacuation,going all the way back to GWX1.03,I gave up in the endI'm sure its to do with the rendering of so many things all at once so close to land Although I did read on here many moons ago that if you go close to the English coast and then come down on a southerly heading to Dunkirk it doesn't happen so frequently,How true that is I don't know,cause like I said I gave up Its to shallow there anyway and crawling with DD's and mines(allied&axis in R/L,don't know if thats modelled in game) Better to go somewhere else

[Leg]

Originally Posted by nikbear

I've had this happen to me every time I've tried to attack anything around the Dunkirk evacuation,going all the way back to GWX1.03,I gave up in the endI'm sure its to do with the rendering of so many things all at once so close to land Although I did read on here many moons ago that if you go close to the English coast and then come down on a southerly heading to Dunkirk it doesn't happen so frequently,How true that is I don't know,cause like I said I gave up Its to shallow there anyway and crawling with DD's and mines(allied&axis in R/L,don't know if thats modelled in game) Better to go somewhere else

Yeah it's quite crowded in that zone .
And that is not the most suitable area for my IX B, but at least there's the Luftwaffe air support. Although with all that huge traffic it'd be quite funny, even if being spotted could mean to be under depth charges for hours, considering the shallow water around Dunkirk. However... what a pity..