Deepest you've gone in a VIIC Early?

msalama · 03-16-09, 10:40 AM

My record is 254m, attained yesterday. Now I don't know whether the auld gel could've still taken a meter or two, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out

You?

PS. GWX 3.0 is my preferred poison ATM if that makes any difference.

Puster Bill · 03-16-09, 11:08 AM

At least 1,000 meters.

Jimbuna · 03-16-09, 12:18 PM

1,001 meters

irish1958 · 03-16-09, 12:23 PM

All the way to the bottom numerous times.

Murr44 · 03-16-09, 12:24 PM

405 meters but still managed to surface.

A Very Super Market · 03-16-09, 12:27 PM

Straight to the bottom.

Lt.Fillipidis · 03-16-09, 01:33 PM

280m If i remember right. Tried to avoid a squadron of planes and in the "Crash Dive" proccess, i took a direct hit.Sank, but managed to bring it back on the suface with 7% integrity and a big hole on the bow section.

Puster Bill · 03-16-09, 01:44 PM

1,000 meters plus infinity.

Seriously, though, I can't remember how deep I've gone and still made it back up, but it's got to be around 250 or 260 meters.

Bosje · 03-18-09, 03:32 PM

287 and got back home, great ride

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-19-09, 05:11 AM

Realistically Type VIIC U-boats had a crush depth of around 200meters.IMPO the crush depth's in game are way to extreme. Personally i dont go below 160-180 meters and thats only as a last resort! The type VIIC41 was designed to go much deeper than the type VIIC. The 7C main difference than the 7B was better sea keeping charatisitics, particulary the bow was redesigned. and the were the turret upgrades that the 7B did not have. other than that the 7b AND C both had single pressure hulls designed out of the same materials. The 7C41 on the other hand was designed with a DOUBLE pressure hull and used a different type of steel. If you are all refering to the Type VIIC41 here instead of the standard type VIIC then disregard everything i've just written.

Graf Paper · 03-19-09, 06:24 AM

For all that redesign to give the VIIC better sea-keeping than the VIIB, you'd think it would have improved her speed. Instead, the VIIB is faster in all regards; suface speed, submerged speed, and dive time.

I've taken a VIIB all the way to 227 meters before I started taking damage from the pressure.

In the VIIC, that depth was not much greater... 234 meters.

Despite the VIIC/41's double-hull design, I've never gotten much past 240 meters without taking damage from the pressure.

I do used the "Randomize Crush Depth" feature in SH3 Commander, so that does make a difference. I like that little bit of uncertainty too add to the drama. When the question is always there, "She took this depth in the last patrol but can she survive this extreme depth again?", it makes for some some good fun.

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-19-09, 06:44 AM

@Graf Paper, I think, and i am only speculating right now as i am too lazy to go back to some of my research materials right now, LOL. The reason that the type VIIC was slightly slower than the 7B, was 2 fold, 1 the length because of the redesigned bow was extended and thus the 7C was heavier than the 7B, they both used the same Diesel engine designs, and the same batteries, which as an end result gave the 7C a slighty lower surface and submerged speed AND reduced battery endurance underwater. One interesting thing to note the type VIIC41 had the same surface speed as the type VIIB, and without me doing a quick reference i am curious to know if that was because of the new type of Reenforced steel used, or an improved engine or supercharger? I would be interested to hear any theories.

msalama · 03-19-09, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Realistically Type VIIC U-boats had a crush depth of around 200meters.

Uboat.net says their maximum depth was 220m. See here:

http://uboat.net/types/viic.htm

So my personal record of 254m might or mightn't be a tad über... but then, aren't there RL stories, too, of some VIICs diving to approx. 280m and surviving? Even if you don't believe Herbert Werner, who seems to have let his imagination run a bit wild when writing his memoirs...

Or maybe they (i.e. SH3Cmdr & random crush depth) really DID give me an exceptionally sturdy boat this time, huh???

PS. Sorry for the rambly tone, a slow day at the office here

Otto Heinzmeir · 03-19-09, 05:05 PM

The trouble with finding the maximum depth. Is you have to keep going deeper and have the hull fail to know what the maximum is.

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-19-09, 06:02 PM

@msalama. I said AROUND 200 meters. I was speaking from memory, i didnt have the energy at the time i wrote that to verify my accuracy.

03-16-09, 10:40 AM	#1
msalama Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In an octopus's garden Posts: 565 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Deepest you've gone in a VIIC Early? My record is 254m, attained yesterday. Now I don't know whether the auld gel could've still taken a meter or two, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out You? PS. GWX 3.0 is my preferred poison ATM if that makes any difference.

03-16-09, 11:08 AM	#2
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	At least 1,000 meters. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

03-16-09, 12:18 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	1,001 meters __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-16-09, 12:23 PM	#4
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	All the way to the bottom numerous times. __________________ Irish1958

03-16-09, 12:27 PM	#6
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Straight to the bottom. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

03-16-09, 12:24 PM	#5
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	405 meters but still managed to surface.

03-16-09, 01:33 PM	#7
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	280m If i remember right. Tried to avoid a squadron of planes and in the "Crash Dive" proccess, i took a direct hit.Sank, but managed to bring it back on the suface with 7% integrity and a big hole on the bow section.

03-16-09, 01:44 PM	#8
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	1,000 meters plus infinity. Seriously, though, I can't remember how deep I've gone and still made it back up, but it's got to be around 250 or 260 meters. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

03-18-09, 03:32 PM	#9
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	287 and got back home, great ride __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

03-19-09, 05:11 AM	#10
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Realistically Type VIIC U-boats had a crush depth of around 200meters.IMPO the crush depth's in game are way to extreme. Personally i dont go below 160-180 meters and thats only as a last resort! The type VIIC41 was designed to go much deeper than the type VIIC. The 7C main difference than the 7B was better sea keeping charatisitics, particulary the bow was redesigned. and the were the turret upgrades that the 7B did not have. other than that the 7b AND C both had single pressure hulls designed out of the same materials. The 7C41 on the other hand was designed with a DOUBLE pressure hull and used a different type of steel. If you are all refering to the Type VIIC41 here instead of the standard type VIIC then disregard everything i've just written.

03-19-09, 06:24 AM	#11
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	For all that redesign to give the VIIC better sea-keeping than the VIIB, you'd think it would have improved her speed. Instead, the VIIB is faster in all regards; suface speed, submerged speed, and dive time. I've taken a VIIB all the way to 227 meters before I started taking damage from the pressure. In the VIIC, that depth was not much greater... 234 meters. Despite the VIIC/41's double-hull design, I've never gotten much past 240 meters without taking damage from the pressure. I do used the "Randomize Crush Depth" feature in SH3 Commander, so that does make a difference. I like that little bit of uncertainty too add to the drama. When the question is always there, "She took this depth in the last patrol but can she survive this extreme depth again?", it makes for some some good fun. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

03-19-09, 06:44 AM	#12
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	@Graf Paper, I think, and i am only speculating right now as i am too lazy to go back to some of my research materials right now, LOL. The reason that the type VIIC was slightly slower than the 7B, was 2 fold, 1 the length because of the redesigned bow was extended and thus the 7C was heavier than the 7B, they both used the same Diesel engine designs, and the same batteries, which as an end result gave the 7C a slighty lower surface and submerged speed AND reduced battery endurance underwater. One interesting thing to note the type VIIC41 had the same surface speed as the type VIIB, and without me doing a quick reference i am curious to know if that was because of the new type of Reenforced steel used, or an improved engine or supercharger? I would be interested to hear any theories.

03-19-09, 05:05 PM	#14
Otto Heinzmeir Weps Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wilhelmshaven Local Pub Posts: 361 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The trouble with finding the maximum depth. Is you have to keep going deeper and have the hull fail to know what the maximum is.

03-19-09, 06:02 PM	#15
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	@msalama. I said AROUND 200 meters. I was speaking from memory, i didnt have the energy at the time i wrote that to verify my accuracy.