Ship Sinking Bubbles generator/Node ???

gdc3man · 03-27-09, 06:26 AM

Hello, All

got a couple of questions.......

1. What node in silent hunter editor controls the bubbles that appear under water when a ship sinks, or I should say a lack of bubbles, when a ship sinks there should be lots of bubbles, not a squirt of bubbles from the bow when you sink an aircraft carrier......

2. I never really noticed this till I was playing with ship numbers....I noticed there is only one fire sound file that activates when the ship sinks producing the fire or ship burning sound.....then we have fires onboard ships but no fire burning sound effects, just explosion sounds, is that normal in everybody's game, or do you get ship burning sound when ship is moving and not actually sinking, want to make sure that is running right in my game, thought it was a little odd to have fire burning on ships but no fire sound effects

kriller2 · 03-27-09, 06:35 AM

Hi gdc3man,
There is no node with bubbles for the ships,its a texture that creates the sinking bubbles, I modified the texture to create the illusion of more bubbles for ROW and PE, the texture is inside the data/textures/tnormal/tex and is called something with bubbles

The submarines have a particle generator attached to them, which is responsible for the bubbles when the submarine is submerged.

I think it would be possible to attach a particle generator on the ships, but then you will have to learn how the particle generator work and make the particles start when the ship is sinking, it would require alot of work, because after you have made one working particle generator you would have to import it into all the DAT's of the ships.

gdc3man · 03-27-09, 08:07 PM

Hmmm....I will check into it Thanks

The other question, do you have sound of fire burning, when a ship is on fire? My fire sound only activates when the ship sinks or oil spill with fire appears when ship is sinking....is that the correct way the game engine does things?

gdc3man · 03-28-09, 11:54 PM

Hello,

Can anybody answer the ship fire question ?

The other question, do you have sound of fire burning, when a ship is on fire? My fire sound only activates when the ship sinks or oil spill with fire appears when ship is sinking....is that the correct way the game engine does things?

I just though it really strange to have a fire on a ship that was not sinking, cruising along with no sound of a fire burning just the fire showing......

03-29-09, 12:21 AM

its the same answer and same solution as the bubbles question, you need to add sound controllers (just like particlr generators) for the fire sound.

there needs to be some kind of controller for each of the animations in the game and anything your lacking needs to be added and in most cases thats for each ship in the game.

open the data/ sea folder and thats the ship list so you get some idea how many times you will have to create a controller to do all the ships.

the subs are in the data/ submarines folder

to do what you want you will have to get and learn to use s3d, the sticky post has the download link and video tutorials of how to use it are on his website.

gdc3man · 03-29-09, 01:43 AM

Hi webster...

actually all I am asking, is during normal game play, when a ship is on fire, and not sinking do you here the fire burning, cause I don't.....I thought this to be odd.....just wondering if my setup is working right, I only hear the burning sound when Oil slick and fire are present when ship is sinking, is that the way the game engine is designed to function....

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/698...2612052987.png ............This is the only time I here fire Burning sound............

if a ship is hit and on fire...... I do not here fire burning sound, If my sub is hit and on fire, I do not here any fire burning sound
is that the way it is set-up, cause I only see 1 fire sound file and that must get activated when you get an oil spill with fire.....?

I am trying to figure out if that is the same for everybody ???

Thanks

03-29-09, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gdc3man

Hi webster...

actually all I am asking, is during normal game play, when a ship is on fire, and not sinking do you here the fire burning, cause I don't.....I thought this to be odd.....just wondering if my setup is working right, I only hear the burning sound when Oil slick and fire are present when ship is sinking, is that the way the game engine is designed to function....

it doesnt work that way.

a sound has to be connected to the fire so maybe it is connected to the oil fire but not the regular fire.

it really is one of those simple questions with no simple answer but i wound think you need to connect the fire sound to that particular fire.

my guess is they forgot to or made a typo and thats why no sound.

there are ships with half the damage zones missing so a missing sound is small potatos lol

i took a quick look and it looks like the file you need to edit is the "particles.dsd" found in the data/ library folder

it has the sound controllers for all the particles generated in the game.

you will have to look at all of them one at a time to find the right one. the first nodes are all anonomus but the child nodes have names to clue you to what they are

gdc3man · 03-29-09, 02:07 AM

so you are telling me I should be hearing fire burning sound when a ship is on fire and my sub is on fire......correct

ok I think I understand, and the fire burning sound has to be linked to all the seprate areas where a fire would burn on a ship.....LOL.....that won't be easy.....have to take some time out and think about this........Thanks for help

03-29-09, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdc3man

so you are telling me I should be hearing fire burning sound when a ship is on fire and my sub is on fire......correct

ok I think I understand, and the fire burning sound has to be linked to all the seprate areas where a fire would burn on a ship.....LOL.....that won't be easy.....have to take some time out and think about this........Thanks for help

no not quite that bad, it has to be linked to all the types of fires, so wherever they are they will have sound.

then no matter what type of fire it is it will have the fire sound to it, follow me?

you have small fire and big fire you have big oil fire and small oil fire

but im going from memory of sh3 so it may be different but probably not.

vickers03 is really good with sounds, he should be the one to help you

gdc3man · 03-29-09, 04:17 AM

before I saw this I was almost coming to that very same conclusion looking at the partical file and the partical.dsd file, that would make my adventure much more simple

so much to learn and alot do not understand

If I can figure out how to link the partical files like you mentioned, you are correct they are the same, to the fire sound file, I think that was the only real problem I have with my setup.....I will get with vickers03 and bug him

I also found the #502 Node for sink bubbles for ships, its amazing what these generator nodes can due, will definently experiment with that one....

Thanks Alot for your help.....

03-29-09, 08:28 AM

this is different but i think the same process with different controllers

check this out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=148647

gimpy117 · 03-29-09, 11:18 AM

I was also dissapointed by this...the game screens UBI sold me on made it look like there was a torrent coming out..no such luck.

gdc3man · 03-29-09, 07:03 PM

thanks webster, this link is the key to a higher education

can we speak chinese

Thanks, looks like I got reading to do

gdc3man · 03-30-09, 02:39 AM

Hello, all

webster, or vickers03

ok, I am stuck.....I have the sound file ship fire 1 linked to the Particles.dsd sound controlling file using silent hunter editor, I learn pretty quick, got all the programming done for that....now here is where I am completly stuck, how do I get the sound programming in the particles.dsd file to see the particle file, how do I link the sound to the following : _______________Fire Big
___________________________Burning oil
___________________________Fire small
___________________________Burning_oil_Small
___________________________Fire
___________________________Burning_oil_smoke_small

Particle nodes in the Particle file, I figure it has somthing to do with adding the parent ID to the sound programming so they can see each other, then when a fire pops up where ever the sound gets activated as well, is this a correct assumption,

man I tell you, One can get lost in this.....so much stuff

I made 8 seperate ambient sound and source parameters linking the ship fire sound file, along with the ambient volume controller and I would like to link the above particle effects seperatley to each ambient sound section I made, and i am not sure how to proceed?

Thanks....gdc3man

gdc3man · 03-30-09, 05:00 PM

still need help on this, anybody !

also where can I find detailed instruction on the use of silent hunter editor 0.9.4 ?

03-27-09, 06:26 AM	#1
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Ship Sinking Bubbles generator/Node ??? Hello, All got a couple of questions....... 1. What node in silent hunter editor controls the bubbles that appear under water when a ship sinks, or I should say a lack of bubbles, when a ship sinks there should be lots of bubbles, not a squirt of bubbles from the bow when you sink an aircraft carrier...... 2. I never really noticed this till I was playing with ship numbers....I noticed there is only one fire sound file that activates when the ship sinks producing the fire or ship burning sound.....then we have fires onboard ships but no fire burning sound effects, just explosion sounds, is that normal in everybody's game, or do you get ship burning sound when ship is moving and not actually sinking, want to make sure that is running right in my game, thought it was a little odd to have fire burning on ships but no fire sound effects

03-27-09, 06:35 AM	#2
kriller2 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hi gdc3man, There is no node with bubbles for the ships,its a texture that creates the sinking bubbles, I modified the texture to create the illusion of more bubbles for ROW and PE, the texture is inside the data/textures/tnormal/tex and is called something with bubbles The submarines have a particle generator attached to them, which is responsible for the bubbles when the submarine is submerged. I think it would be possible to attach a particle generator on the ships, but then you will have to learn how the particle generator work and make the particles start when the ship is sinking, it would require alot of work, because after you have made one working particle generator you would have to import it into all the DAT's of the ships. __________________ *Kriller2.* [MODs] Real Environment mod and Pacific Enviroments 4 mod

03-27-09, 08:07 PM	#3
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Ok..Thanks I will take A look/ship fires no sound Hmmm....I will check into it Thanks The other question, do you have sound of fire burning, when a ship is on fire? My fire sound only activates when the ship sinks or oil spill with fire appears when ship is sinking....is that the correct way the game engine does things? Last edited by gdc3man; 03-27-09 at 08:49 PM.

03-28-09, 11:54 PM	#4
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Ship fire Question ? Hello, Can anybody answer the ship fire question ? The other question, do you have sound of fire burning, when a ship is on fire? My fire sound only activates when the ship sinks or oil spill with fire appears when ship is sinking....is that the correct way the game engine does things? I just though it really strange to have a fire on a ship that was not sinking, cruising along with no sound of a fire burning just the fire showing......

03-29-09, 01:43 AM	#6
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Not the answer I needed Hi webster... actually all I am asking, is during normal game play, when a ship is on fire, and not sinking do you here the fire burning, cause I don't.....I thought this to be odd.....just wondering if my setup is working right, I only hear the burning sound when Oil slick and fire are present when ship is sinking, is that the way the game engine is designed to function.... http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/698...2612052987.png ............This is the only time I here fire Burning sound............ if a ship is hit and on fire...... I do not here fire burning sound, If my sub is hit and on fire, I do not here any fire burning sound is that the way it is set-up, cause I only see 1 fire sound file and that must get activated when you get an oil spill with fire.....? I am trying to figure out if that is the same for everybody ??? Thanks Last edited by gdc3man; 03-29-09 at 01:56 AM.

03-29-09, 12:21 AM	#5
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	its the same answer and same solution as the bubbles question, you need to add sound controllers (just like particlr generators) for the fire sound. there needs to be some kind of controller for each of the animations in the game and anything your lacking needs to be added and in most cases thats for each ship in the game. open the data/ sea folder and thats the ship list so you get some idea how many times you will have to create a controller to do all the ships. the subs are in the data/ submarines folder to do what you want you will have to get and learn to use s3d, the sticky post has the download link and video tutorials of how to use it are on his website.

03-29-09, 02:07 AM	#8
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	MMMM OK.... so you are telling me I should be hearing fire burning sound when a ship is on fire and my sub is on fire......correct ok I think I understand, and the fire burning sound has to be linked to all the seprate areas where a fire would burn on a ship.....LOL.....that won't be easy.....have to take some time out and think about this........Thanks for help

03-29-09, 04:17 AM	#10
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Wow little simpler.... before I saw this I was almost coming to that very same conclusion looking at the partical file and the partical.dsd file, that would make my adventure much more simple so much to learn and alot do not understand If I can figure out how to link the partical files like you mentioned, you are correct they are the same, to the fire sound file, I think that was the only real problem I have with my setup.....I will get with vickers03 and bug him I also found the #502 Node for sink bubbles for ships, its amazing what these generator nodes can due, will definently experiment with that one.... Thanks Alot for your help.....

03-29-09, 08:28 AM	#11
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	this is different but i think the same process with different controllers check this out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=148647

03-29-09, 11:18 AM	#12
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	I was also dissapointed by this...the game screens UBI sold me on made it look like there was a torrent coming out..no such luck. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-29-09, 07:03 PM	#13
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	OOOOOOHHHH Education Time, SWEEEET ! thanks webster, this link is the key to a higher education can we speak chinese Thanks, looks like I got reading to do

03-30-09, 02:39 AM	#14
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	SOUND FILES PROGRAMMED for ship fire 1 file Hello, all webster, or vickers03 ok, I am stuck.....I have the sound file ship fire 1 linked to the Particles.dsd sound controlling file using silent hunter editor, I learn pretty quick, got all the programming done for that....now here is where I am completly stuck, how do I get the sound programming in the particles.dsd file to see the particle file, how do I link the sound to the following : _______________Fire Big ___________________________Burning oil ___________________________Fire small ___________________________Burning_oil_Small ___________________________Fire ___________________________Burning_oil_smoke_small Particle nodes in the Particle file, I figure it has somthing to do with adding the parent ID to the sound programming so they can see each other, then when a fire pops up where ever the sound gets activated as well, is this a correct assumption, man I tell you, One can get lost in this.....so much stuff I made 8 seperate ambient sound and source parameters linking the ship fire sound file, along with the ambient volume controller and I would like to link the above particle effects seperatley to each ambient sound section I made, and i am not sure how to proceed? Thanks....gdc3man Last edited by gdc3man; 03-30-09 at 03:03 AM.

03-30-09, 05:00 PM	#15
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Got any Ideas ! still need help on this, anybody ! also where can I find detailed instruction on the use of silent hunter editor 0.9.4 ?