TV Help

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 07:27 AM

I have a 27 inch Toshiba SD tv, that we got for free about a year ago, so I don't know its exact age. I have my ps3 connected to it. Now I only notice the issue in 2 player games, but it might be there all the time, just not obvious. As you know, in two player games the TV screen is supposed to be split into two even rectangles. The top one for one person, the bottom for the other. On my TV the top rectangle is fine, the issue is the bottom rectangle, for some reason it tries to display all the information, but the bottom rectangle is several inches smaller, which makes it difficult for who ever I'm playing with too play. I want to know if this is something my ps3 is doing or if its my TV, and if its my TV if I can fix it.

UnderseaLcpl · 03-19-09, 07:34 AM

Dumb question; have you tried adjusting the aspect option?

danlisa · 03-19-09, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

On my TV the top rectangle is fine, the issue is the bottom rectangle, for some reason it tries to display all the information, but the bottom rectangle is several inches smaller, which makes it difficult for who ever I'm playing with too play. I want to know if this is something my ps3 is doing or if its my TV, and if its my TV if I can fix it.

Check the display resolutions on the PS3, I'll guess that you have 540p selected. This is fine for PAL region SD TV's but for some reason NTSC TV's have a problem and default to 480p. So it seems that the PS3 is squeezing all the 540p information into the smaller native 480p space, with help from the TV which also has resizing capabilities.

In this case I think it's a limitation on your TV and the PS3 is working as it should be.

What game is it by the way? It may actually be an issue with the games split screen sizing. For example Motor Storm PR has a fixed aspect split screen and it can produce some idiotic stuff.

HD TV's are very cheap these days and you will be amazed at the difference in quality.

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 08:40 AM

Its actually every split player game I have. Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Resident evil 5, GT5, I haven't tried Killzone 2 in splitscreen so I dont know if it'll do the same.

As for the resolution, I actually don't know what its set at. I have never messed with it. I guess I'll go check around.

As for an HD tv, I cant afford one at this time, but I am looking to get one. Although I did enter a sweepstakes that was giving away a 50' LCD. I just doubt I'll win :rotfl:

@underseacpl: Actually I have not.

danlisa · 03-19-09, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

I haven't tried Killzone 2 in splitscreen so I dont know if it'll do the same.

Let me save you some time. It doesn't have Split Screen........yet.

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 08:52 AM

How do you check which resolution its set too. The only thing I could find was that I set it to component cables, and that its in the 4:3 ratio.

danlisa · 03-19-09, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

How do you check which resolution its set too. The only thing I could find was that I set it to component cables, and that its in the 4:3 ratio.

Under the Settings Menu on the XMB, look for Display Settings, Video Output (Scroll Left), choose Custom. There you can check the resolutions.

Do not de-tick the default selected number as it will need to default to this if you try other res settings that can't be displayed.

SteamWake · 03-19-09, 10:55 AM

Dont answer this mans questions ! He is with Umbrella Corp !

Huge big evil industy !

(runs for cover) :rotfl:

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 12:52 PM

Hey. I'm just a lowly lab tech. Dont hate on me.

Here's what its doing. Never realize how big the difference is.

Here's where it says its running in 480i. There is no custom option in there. Maybe its the fact I'm using Component cables.

UnderseaLcpl · 03-19-09, 10:02 PM

Just to make sure we're on the same page, when I mentioned the aspect function, I was talking about the aspect on the TV itself.

I can reproduce the exact problem you pictured with RE5 by using the "full" aspect on my tv.

Do you know what I'm talking about or have you tried it already?

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 10:33 PM

To be honest. I have no clue what you're talking about. When you said aspect I thought you meant the aspect ratio of the ps3, which can either be 4:3 or 16:1

UnderseaLcpl · 03-19-09, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

To be honest. I have no clue what you're talking about. When you said aspect I thought you meant the aspect ratio of the ps3, which can either be 4:3 or 16:1

Most televisions have an aspect option that can be found under the video options menu, or something similar. In some cases, the remote or the tv might have a button dedicated solely to this function.

Your TV can function in many different aspect ratios, although they are often given names rather than ratio numbers i.e.; Cinematic, Full, Widescreen, Letterbox, Regular, etc...
The SD is a flatscreen and should have these options somewhere.

Some aspects will distort the game screen a bit, making it wider or truncating edges. Others will be more suitable.
If you can find the function, you should be able to pick out a reasonable setting.

Play with the remote a bit and see what you can find. If you have any problems, I'll be glad to help any way I can.

Spike88 · 03-19-09, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Most televisions have an aspect option that can be found under the video options menu, or something similar. In some cases, the remote or the tv might have a button dedicated solely to this function.

Your TV can function in many different aspect ratios, although they are often given names rather than ratio numbers i.e.; Cinematic, Full, Widescreen, Letterbox, Regular, etc...
The SD is a flatscreen and should have these options somewhere.

Some aspects will distort the game screen a bit, making it wider or truncating edges. Others will be more suitable.
If you can find the function, you should be able to pick out a reasonable setting.

Play with the remote a bit and see what you can find. If you have any problems, I'll be glad to help any way I can.

I don't have the original remote. :rotfl:Atleast I don't think I do. I'll check. I use my Direct Tv remote.

Well after finding the remote and examing all the buttons, and then examing all the buttons on the actual tv, I have established there is no aspect option. The only options are to change contrast, etc.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-09, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

...HD TV's are very cheap these days and you will be amazed at the difference in quality.

Yeah, most of them are worse than the SD TV that he is trying to compare to which is most likely a CRT.

Look at the ugly interpolation you see on HD LCD's and Plasmas! Its almost un-watchable in high action sequences. Plasmas and LCD's simply cannot reproduce the color of a CRT either - only about 35% of the color spectrum of your eyes. Except for the size of a TV, plasmas and LCD's are a step backwards, especially when compared to an HD CRT.

I'm still waiting for the price a laser TV's (laservue) to drop. Laser TV's are the only true successor to a CRT.

-S

03-19-09, 07:27 AM	#1
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	TV Help I have a 27 inch Toshiba SD tv, that we got for free about a year ago, so I don't know its exact age. I have my ps3 connected to it. Now I only notice the issue in 2 player games, but it might be there all the time, just not obvious. As you know, in two player games the TV screen is supposed to be split into two even rectangles. The top one for one person, the bottom for the other. On my TV the top rectangle is fine, the issue is the bottom rectangle, for some reason it tries to display all the information, but the bottom rectangle is several inches smaller, which makes it difficult for who ever I'm playing with too play. I want to know if this is something my ps3 is doing or if its my TV, and if its my TV if I can fix it.

03-19-09, 07:34 AM	#2
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dumb question; have you tried adjusting the aspect option? __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

03-19-09, 08:52 AM	#6
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	How do you check which resolution its set too. The only thing I could find was that I set it to component cables, and that its in the 4:3 ratio. __________________

03-19-09, 10:55 AM	#8
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Dont answer this mans questions ! He is with Umbrella Corp ! Huge big evil industy ! (runs for cover) :rotfl: __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-19-09, 12:52 PM	#9
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Hey. I'm just a lowly lab tech. Dont hate on me. Here's what its doing. Never realize how big the difference is. Here's where it says its running in 480i. There is no custom option in there. Maybe its the fact I'm using Component cables. __________________

03-19-09, 08:40 AM	#4
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Its actually every split player game I have. Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Resident evil 5, GT5, I haven't tried Killzone 2 in splitscreen so I dont know if it'll do the same. As for the resolution, I actually don't know what its set at. I have never messed with it. I guess I'll go check around. As for an HD tv, I cant afford one at this time, but I am looking to get one. Although I did enter a sweepstakes that was giving away a 50' LCD. I just doubt I'll win :rotfl: @underseacpl: Actually I have not.

03-19-09, 10:02 PM	#10
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just to make sure we're on the same page, when I mentioned the aspect function, I was talking about the aspect on the TV itself. I can reproduce the exact problem you pictured with RE5 by using the "full" aspect on my tv. Do you know what I'm talking about or have you tried it already? __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

03-19-09, 10:33 PM	#11
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	To be honest. I have no clue what you're talking about. When you said aspect I thought you meant the aspect ratio of the ps3, which can either be 4:3 or 16:1 __________________