SH3 realism = erm... pure 100% realism?

Lt.Fillipidis · 04-11-09, 03:44 PM

I personally doubt it but i would like a second opinion.
Given a situation where a Destroyer fires her 102mm guns at an IX boat.
What are the chances for the boat to survive even one direct hit to the hull?
Couldnt the shell pierce the hull and do fatal damage?

Or on another example. The most damage i have recieved of a depth charge was 52% of the hull integrity and complete destruction of everything in the bow torpedo room. Wouldnt that be more than enough to cause the entire torpedo room to explode?

gigel_escu · 04-11-09, 04:01 PM

Second damage frm depth charge are posible and plausible, the depth charge exloded near bow section, an explosion in the water are 10 times stronger than some quantity of TNT explode in the air. The boat have a pressure hull, thick steel inside, outside was steel that was exterior hull, visible one. The outside hull was not so resistent, it could be easy deformed. I think it is improper said that torpedo tube was destroyed, I think it was damage and unable to use and also was impossible to repair at sea.

For first problem I agree with you, a 100 mm or something shell from a corvette hit me and kill my helms man, that mean inside the boat. I understand that corvette use an antitank gun and probabily very performant piercing shells. I don't think it is possible to penetrate armour from that distance with that gun, but an logical explain could be that the boat was shaken from hit. I don't know I used the proper world, shaken maybe jolt. That shake could make the crew litterary hit out the boat "walls", that means some equipment and some iron grips. Ouch that heart me.

I understand that some people was upset about escots behaivour. I am not happy sometimes they hit me with remote actionated depth charget, sometimes they stay and I sink them with deck gun. For realism I accepted that Topp and Kretschmer wasn't some cowboy who shoot after red skins on the Atlantic, that is for real.

Sensekhmet · 04-11-09, 04:55 PM

He could get killed by the pressure hull not being penetrated but 'flakeing' (sp?). What happens is the impact doesn't penetrate but is enough to detach pieces of metal that go hurling into the compartment. At least that's what happens in tank... but I think there's not too much sense in discussing it, after all such a hit would damage/weaken the pressure hull so diving would be close to suicide.

04-11-09, 03:44 PM	#1
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	SH3 realism = erm... pure 100% realism? I personally doubt it but i would like a second opinion. Given a situation where a Destroyer fires her 102mm guns at an IX boat. What are the chances for the boat to survive even one direct hit to the hull? Couldnt the shell pierce the hull and do fatal damage? Or on another example. The most damage i have recieved of a depth charge was 52% of the hull integrity and complete destruction of everything in the bow torpedo room. Wouldnt that be more than enough to cause the entire torpedo room to explode?

04-11-09, 04:01 PM	#2
gigel_escu Watch Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 15 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Second damage frm depth charge are posible and plausible, the depth charge exloded near bow section, an explosion in the water are 10 times stronger than some quantity of TNT explode in the air. The boat have a pressure hull, thick steel inside, outside was steel that was exterior hull, visible one. The outside hull was not so resistent, it could be easy deformed. I think it is improper said that torpedo tube was destroyed, I think it was damage and unable to use and also was impossible to repair at sea. For first problem I agree with you, a 100 mm or something shell from a corvette hit me and kill my helms man, that mean inside the boat. I understand that corvette use an antitank gun and probabily very performant piercing shells. I don't think it is possible to penetrate armour from that distance with that gun, but an logical explain could be that the boat was shaken from hit. I don't know I used the proper world, shaken maybe jolt. That shake could make the crew litterary hit out the boat "walls", that means some equipment and some iron grips. Ouch that heart me. I understand that some people was upset about escots behaivour. I am not happy sometimes they hit me with remote actionated depth charget, sometimes they stay and I sink them with deck gun. For realism I accepted that Topp and Kretschmer wasn't some cowboy who shoot after red skins on the Atlantic, that is for real.

04-11-09, 04:55 PM	#3
Sensekhmet Loader Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 89 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	He could get killed by the pressure hull not being penetrated but 'flakeing' (sp?). What happens is the impact doesn't penetrate but is enough to detach pieces of metal that go hurling into the compartment. At least that's what happens in tank... but I think there's not too much sense in discussing it, after all such a hit would damage/weaken the pressure hull so diving would be close to suicide.