Battle of Midway - Im a Blind Skipper

BigZed · 02-22-09, 07:58 PM

Hey everyone,

First off I just wanna say that the community on this forum is unbelievable. Ive been reading posts on this forum for years and have always found what Ive been looking for. The amount of information, insight, and advice that ppl give here is incredible.

Having said that..lol...here is my situation.

Currently running 1.5 with RSRD, TMO and RFB (im not even sure if TMO and RFB can run at the same time but JSGME gave me no issues when i loaded all the mods) If anyone has any comments about that specifically feel free.

Currently my sub is positioned at 180W and 30N off of Midway Island, its June 3rd '42 and I'm waiting for the Battle of Midway to commence (so far in this game I haven't been involved in a large naval battle). I've sat there for the entire duration of the battle (usually give up around June 9th) with very little naval activity. Ive run into a small group of DD's and one Light Cruiser but nothing close to the massive fleets that I expected.

Ive searched the forums regarding this and have found some information, basically ppl cant find the fleets either but they are running a stock version. OR have found the fleets but don't divulge the co-ords.

I'm wondering if anyone could help me out by pointing my sub in the right direction. Or perhaps tell me about their experience with this battle.

PS: I tried looking in the RSRD files for any battle co-ords but was a little eerie with what exactly to look at and of the idea of screwing one of the files up.

Thanks in advance

kylesplanet · 02-22-09, 08:12 PM

As far as coordinates I don't have them but in RSRDC the battle is there.

Make sure that you have the correct version of RSRDC for TMO. Lurker did versions for stock, RFB and TMO.

Welcome aboard! Subsim is a must if you play SH4.

EDIT: I didn't catch that you were running TMO and RFB. They are not compatible.

JREX53 · 02-22-09, 08:16 PM

BigZed,

Welcome to Subsim!!

To answer your first question, TMO & RFB are NOT made to work together, it is one or the other, but not both. You can make additional folders for SH4 for separate installs for both. You will also need to use MultiSH4.

To answer your second question about Midway, Yes the battle is in the campaign by Lurker.

Good Luck!

Torplexed · 02-22-09, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigZed

Currently my sub is positioned at 180W and 30N off of Midway Island, its June 3rd '42 and I'm waiting for the Battle of Midway to commence (so far in this game I haven't been involved in a large naval battle). I've sat there for the entire duration of the battle (usually give up around June 9th) with very little naval activity. Ive run into a small group of DD's and one Light Cruiser but nothing close to the massive fleets that I expected.

You really shouldn't be expecting massive fleets all in one spot. While the numbers involved may seem impressive in total, the Japanese fleet in particular was broken up into about four groups hundreds of miles distant from each other.

Plus, I'm not sure how accurately the battle would be modeled. There are no Akagi or Kaga class carriers modeled in the game.

Max2147 · 02-22-09, 08:20 PM

Subs not finding the Battle of Midway is pretty realistic. Both sides deployed big submarine screens, but only one sub on either side actually found the battle.

Ironically, the US sub involved didn't destroy anything, but played a big role in winning the battle in a roundabout way. The Japanese sub sank a US carrier, but it hardly made a difference in the grand scheme of things.

BigZed · 02-22-09, 08:23 PM

Thanks for the quick responses, I guess I'll look around for the larger ships.

I'll try running just RFB and RSRD for now on. Though just to note that i never had any problems when all three (TMO RFB and RSRD) were loaded, did they work? maybe not, but at least no game play issues.

Torplexed · 02-22-09, 08:49 PM

I think one other US sub was involved. The USS Tambor didn't get to make an attack but the Japanese cruiser Mogami spotted her periscope and in maneuvering to avoid a suspected torpedo attack, collided with the Mikuma. Both ships were slowed and came under air attack the next day.

A Very Super Market · 02-22-09, 09:01 PM

Never mind, moment of idiocy.

Max2147 · 02-22-09, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

I think one other US sub was involved. The USS Tambor didn't get to make an attack but the Japanese cruiser Mogami spotted her periscope and in maneuvering to avoid a suspected torpedo attack, collided with the Mikuma. Both ships were slowed and came under air attack the next day.

Forgot about that one! Cheers.

jazzabilly · 02-23-09, 02:00 AM

I know the TF you speak of- a Kuma Class CL and 4 DD bopping around with no party to attend. Weird. You missed the party, Skip. Try putting yourself about 200 nm NNW of Midway on or about the 4th of June. Watch your TC and make frequent hydrophone checks at P. depth.

They will show.

You can also catch the bad guys as they leave the Bungo Straits in late May. Will PM you the date if you ask for it, don't want to spoil the surprise for everyone else.

BigZed · 02-24-09, 11:43 AM

Sure Jazz that would be appreciated.

Also to note that yes that is the small group of ships that I come in contact with...pissed i missed the party though!!!

Any co-ords would be great!!

Red Devil · 02-27-09, 01:43 PM

I was passing Midway when I got the signal, I went to the north west as I knew a fleet was actually there in reality and ran into them!!! Oh what a beautiful turkey shoot!!

BigZed · 02-28-09, 07:04 PM

I restarted my career when you guys told me that TMO and RFB weren't compatible (maybe that had something to do with the lack of action...just a thought). So i cant wait for the battle of midway to come along!!

Hopefully I wont be blind any longer!!!

Red Devil · 03-01-09, 06:47 AM

Of teh many instances of 'reality' in the sim, the battle of midway was the only one I nanaged to get involved with. Once, when notified of the Battle of the Coral Sea, I was not too far away, made it within the specifics, and - nothing!! Not even a merchant.

03-01-09, 01:47 PM

also make sure you have the latest version of jsgme its 2.2 i think, that may be why you got no conflict warnings.

02-22-09, 07:58 PM	#1
BigZed Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Battle of Midway - Im a Blind Skipper Hey everyone, First off I just wanna say that the community on this forum is unbelievable. Ive been reading posts on this forum for years and have always found what Ive been looking for. The amount of information, insight, and advice that ppl give here is incredible. Having said that..lol...here is my situation. Currently running 1.5 with RSRD, TMO and RFB (im not even sure if TMO and RFB can run at the same time but JSGME gave me no issues when i loaded all the mods) If anyone has any comments about that specifically feel free. Currently my sub is positioned at 180W and 30N off of Midway Island, its June 3rd '42 and I'm waiting for the Battle of Midway to commence (so far in this game I haven't been involved in a large naval battle). I've sat there for the entire duration of the battle (usually give up around June 9th) with very little naval activity. Ive run into a small group of DD's and one Light Cruiser but nothing close to the massive fleets that I expected. Ive searched the forums regarding this and have found some information, basically ppl cant find the fleets either but they are running a stock version. OR have found the fleets but don't divulge the co-ords. I'm wondering if anyone could help me out by pointing my sub in the right direction. Or perhaps tell me about their experience with this battle. PS: I tried looking in the RSRD files for any battle co-ords but was a little eerie with what exactly to look at and of the idea of screwing one of the files up. Thanks in advance

02-22-09, 08:12 PM	#2
kylesplanet Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 629 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	As far as coordinates I don't have them but in RSRDC the battle is there. Make sure that you have the correct version of RSRDC for TMO. Lurker did versions for stock, RFB and TMO. Welcome aboard! Subsim is a must if you play SH4. EDIT: I didn't catch that you were running TMO and RFB. They are not compatible. __________________

02-22-09, 08:16 PM	#3
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	BigZed, Welcome to Subsim!! To answer your first question, TMO & RFB are NOT made to work together, it is one or the other, but not both. You can make additional folders for SH4 for separate installs for both. You will also need to use MultiSH4. To answer your second question about Midway, Yes the battle is in the campaign by Lurker. Good Luck! __________________ Jim

02-22-09, 09:01 PM	#8
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never mind, moment of idiocy. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-23-09, 02:00 AM	#10
jazzabilly Planesman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 186 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I know the TF you speak of- a Kuma Class CL and 4 DD bopping around with no party to attend. Weird. You missed the party, Skip. Try putting yourself about 200 nm NNW of Midway on or about the 4th of June. Watch your TC and make frequent hydrophone checks at P. depth. They will show. You can also catch the bad guys as they leave the Bungo Straits in late May. Will PM you the date if you ask for it, don't want to spoil the surprise for everyone else. __________________ If it's a fair fight, then you didn't plan it properly. ====================================

02-22-09, 08:20 PM	#5
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Subs not finding the Battle of Midway is pretty realistic. Both sides deployed big submarine screens, but only one sub on either side actually found the battle. Ironically, the US sub involved didn't destroy anything, but played a big role in winning the battle in a roundabout way. The Japanese sub sank a US carrier, but it hardly made a difference in the grand scheme of things.

02-22-09, 08:23 PM	#6
BigZed Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the quick responses, I guess I'll look around for the larger ships. I'll try running just RFB and RSRD for now on. Though just to note that i never had any problems when all three (TMO RFB and RSRD) were loaded, did they work? maybe not, but at least no game play issues.

02-22-09, 08:49 PM	#7
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I think one other US sub was involved. The USS Tambor didn't get to make an attack but the Japanese cruiser Mogami spotted her periscope and in maneuvering to avoid a suspected torpedo attack, collided with the Mikuma. Both ships were slowed and came under air attack the next day.

02-24-09, 11:43 AM	#11
BigZed Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sure Jazz that would be appreciated. Also to note that yes that is the small group of ships that I come in contact with...pissed i missed the party though!!! Any co-ords would be great!!

02-27-09, 01:43 PM	#12
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I was passing Midway when I got the signal, I went to the north west as I knew a fleet was actually there in reality and ran into them!!! Oh what a beautiful turkey shoot!! __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-28-09, 07:04 PM	#13
BigZed Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I restarted my career when you guys told me that TMO and RFB weren't compatible (maybe that had something to do with the lack of action...just a thought). So i cant wait for the battle of midway to come along!! Hopefully I wont be blind any longer!!!

03-01-09, 06:47 AM	#14
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Of teh many instances of 'reality' in the sim, the battle of midway was the only one I nanaged to get involved with. Once, when notified of the Battle of the Coral Sea, I was not too far away, made it within the specifics, and - nothing!! Not even a merchant. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

03-01-09, 01:47 PM	#15
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	also make sure you have the latest version of jsgme its 2.2 i think, that may be why you got no conflict warnings.