Low fuel?

Cthulhus · 02-22-09, 06:54 AM

Hi

Just to know what's happen in case of low fuel emergency ? I have above of 10% and I'm not sure to know if I can reach the base.

Thanks

All the best

Fincuan · 02-22-09, 07:09 AM

Time to swim

Arclight · 02-22-09, 07:41 AM

Or build a raft out of underwear and raincoats. Out of fuel means dead in the water, fuel management is part of the challenge.

No tows, no calling in refuels. Sorry.

Platapus · 02-22-09, 09:27 AM

That is one realism item I always turn off.

To me there is simply no fun running on 2/3 speed across the pacific. Yawn.

I am getting pretty close to my 100% realism but I don't think I will ever get there due to my fuel bias.

I remember on career, I forgot to deselect realistic fuel. I left Pearl at my usual flank speed. Got half way to Midway and got the "fuel warning"

Oops, ole "lead foot" here barely got to midway on fumes.

JonB · 02-22-09, 10:01 AM

Well, what you should do depends on if you are running the game vanilla-style or if you have any mods.

With TMO, I think 3/3 ahead is the most fuelefficient speed but with vanilla, 1/3 ahead is the most fuelefficient speed.

I think you can check how far you can go at a certain speed by pressing "Shift+G".

Good luck

Armistead · 02-22-09, 04:03 PM

If you have TMO, not sure about other mods, you have icons where you can check your fuel range. There are about 3 icons. Just draw a line to your port, then hit the icon that says something "range at this speed." You can adjust speed, but 10knts is usually the best in all cases, run slower or faster and recalculate and you can see how much you lose. Icons also give you end range and time.

Ducimas said this works correctly on ships that are damaged. Also, check to see if you have damage. Many times the engines will run and keep charging. If your batterys are damaged, the engines will keep charging them, even though they won't ever stop charging. Cut the battery charge button off after you get it charged.

I"ve also found you can travel another few hundred miles even when fuel is out.
Worse, if you run out and only a few miles out, submerged you can go 1kt long after battery runs out...make take a long real time.

Torplexed · 02-22-09, 04:38 PM

When dealing with fuel issues in SH4 you do get a sense as to why Robert Fulton's Nautilus came with a sail.

Cthulhus · 02-23-09, 05:48 AM

Thanks guys for your answers ...

I don't know why a mod for refueling in not planned !

All the best

capt. smegg · 02-23-09, 10:09 AM

I checked the museum and there is a submarine tender, what i find weird is that if they put that in the game why cant you use it.

Coolhand01 · 02-23-09, 12:06 PM

They use them. Pull into Johnston Island sometime. No dock. Just a tender....CH

ridgewayranger · 02-23-09, 12:20 PM

Hi There,
Submarine tenders or depot ships were mobile bases for submarines to use between patrols for accommodation of crews and repair and replenishment of the boats. Ours (UK) only went to sea once ot twice a year to qualify for duty free privileges. Rumour had it that divers had to clear away a mountain of empty cans before they could be moved! If boats were moved to another base, Malta to Alexandria for example, the depot ship would be there to welcome them home. We had several, Forth, Maidstone, Montclare being names that come to mind.
RR.

NEON DEON · 02-23-09, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhus

Hi

Just to know what's happen in case of low fuel emergency ? I have above of 10% and I'm not sure to know if I can reach the base.

Thanks

All the best

How far away from the closest friendly base are You?

Max2147 · 02-23-09, 05:14 PM

You can refuel in a friendly base that's not your home base. In my current campaign I'm based out of Perth, but I stop pretty frequently in Darwin to top up my fuel tanks and ammo supplies.

Cambaz · 02-23-09, 05:42 PM

my home port is Pearl and they are always sending me to honshu island Japan, and the distance is about 6500 or 7000km after Mid Way (don't know the exact distance) so it's pretty far and the fuel supply is not enough to reach at that patrol area even in 1/3 speed

so i have to dive use my batt. then surface recharge the batt. in 1/3 speed when batt.'s gets full dive again and this continiunes... and this is a total time killer and i reach that point about 1 month later

if i don't do that, reaching to that patrol area is a fantasy with fuel reserve in hand so anybody has any idea to how i get that patrol area or what is your strategies when sailing to really far distances ??
can you give me advices how can i go without losing a month just for traveling in my patrols
P.S : using 1.3 patch and no mods my sub is a Gar type

kylesplanet · 02-23-09, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cambaz

my home port is Pearl and they are always sending me to honshu island Japan, and the distance is about 6500 or 7000km after Mid Way (don't know the exact distance) so it's pretty far and the fuel supply is not enough to reach at that patrol area even in 1/3 speed

so i have to dive use my batt. then surface recharge the batt. in 1/3 speed when batt.'s gets full dive again and this continiunes... and this is a total time killer and i reach that point about 1 month later

if i don't do that, reaching to that patrol area is a fantasy with fuel reserve in hand so anybody has any idea to how i get that patrol area or what is your strategies when sailing to really far distances ??
can you give me advices how can i go without losing a month just for traveling in my patrols
P.S : using 1.3 patch and no mods my sub is a Gar type

You have plenty of fuel to reach the Japanese Coast, patrol and return to Midway. There are several threads around on fuel management, you can do a search for them.
A few pointers:
Stay on the surface as much as possible. Diving and recharging batteries uses a lot more fuel than just staying on the surface.
Transit at 9.5~10 knots. That is the most efficient speed for most boats.
Get patch 1.4 at least. 1.5 is the U-Boat Missions that cost around 10 bucks. I never play U-Boats but the patch and improvements are worth the money.

02-22-09, 06:54 AM	#1
Cthulhus Planesman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bordeaux, France Posts: 191 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Low fuel? Hi Just to know what's happen in case of low fuel emergency ? I have above of 10% and I'm not sure to know if I can reach the base. Thanks All the best

02-22-09, 07:41 AM	#3
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Or build a raft out of underwear and raincoats. Out of fuel means dead in the water, fuel management is part of the challenge. No tows, no calling in refuels. Sorry. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-22-09, 09:27 AM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	That is one realism item I always turn off. To me there is simply no fun running on 2/3 speed across the pacific. Yawn. I am getting pretty close to my 100% realism but I don't think I will ever get there due to my fuel bias. I remember on career, I forgot to deselect realistic fuel. I left Pearl at my usual flank speed. Got half way to Midway and got the "fuel warning" Oops, ole "lead foot" here barely got to midway on fumes. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-23-09, 10:09 AM	#9
capt. smegg Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: brightlingsea Posts: 6 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	RE:Low fuel? I checked the museum and there is a submarine tender, what i find weird is that if they put that in the game why cant you use it. __________________ CAPT. SMEGG

02-23-09, 05:42 PM	#14
Cambaz Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: İstanbul/TÜRKİYE Posts: 92 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	my home port is Pearl and they are always sending me to honshu island Japan, and the distance is about 6500 or 7000km after Mid Way (don't know the exact distance) so it's pretty far and the fuel supply is not enough to reach at that patrol area even in 1/3 speed so i have to dive use my batt. then surface recharge the batt. in 1/3 speed when batt.'s gets full dive again and this continiunes... and this is a total time killer and i reach that point about 1 month later if i don't do that, reaching to that patrol area is a fantasy with fuel reserve in hand so anybody has any idea to how i get that patrol area or what is your strategies when sailing to really far distances ?? can you give me advices how can i go without losing a month just for traveling in my patrols P.S : using 1.3 patch and no mods my sub is a Gar type __________________

02-22-09, 07:09 AM	#2
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Time to swim

02-22-09, 10:01 AM	#5
JonB Bosun Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Halmstad, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well, what you should do depends on if you are running the game vanilla-style or if you have any mods. With TMO, I think 3/3 ahead is the most fuelefficient speed but with vanilla, 1/3 ahead is the most fuelefficient speed. I think you can check how far you can go at a certain speed by pressing "Shift+G". Good luck

02-22-09, 04:03 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	If you have TMO, not sure about other mods, you have icons where you can check your fuel range. There are about 3 icons. Just draw a line to your port, then hit the icon that says something "range at this speed." You can adjust speed, but 10knts is usually the best in all cases, run slower or faster and recalculate and you can see how much you lose. Icons also give you end range and time. Ducimas said this works correctly on ships that are damaged. Also, check to see if you have damage. Many times the engines will run and keep charging. If your batterys are damaged, the engines will keep charging them, even though they won't ever stop charging. Cut the battery charge button off after you get it charged. I"ve also found you can travel another few hundred miles even when fuel is out. Worse, if you run out and only a few miles out, submerged you can go 1kt long after battery runs out...make take a long real time.

02-22-09, 04:38 PM	#7
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	When dealing with fuel issues in SH4 you do get a sense as to why Robert Fulton's Nautilus came with a sail.

02-23-09, 05:48 AM	#8
Cthulhus Planesman Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bordeaux, France Posts: 191 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys for your answers ... I don't know why a mod for refueling in not planned ! All the best

02-23-09, 12:06 PM	#10
Coolhand01 Soundman Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Forsan, Tx. Posts: 143 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	They use them. Pull into Johnston Island sometime. No dock. Just a tender....CH

02-23-09, 12:20 PM	#11
ridgewayranger Frogman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ipswich, England Posts: 302 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	Hi There, Submarine tenders or depot ships were mobile bases for submarines to use between patrols for accommodation of crews and repair and replenishment of the boats. Ours (UK) only went to sea once ot twice a year to qualify for duty free privileges. Rumour had it that divers had to clear away a mountain of empty cans before they could be moved! If boats were moved to another base, Malta to Alexandria for example, the depot ship would be there to welcome them home. We had several, Forth, Maidstone, Montclare being names that come to mind. RR.

02-23-09, 05:14 PM	#13
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can refuel in a friendly base that's not your home base. In my current campaign I'm based out of Perth, but I stop pretty frequently in Darwin to top up my fuel tanks and ammo supplies.