Is this sim even fixable?

Freiwillige · 02-15-09, 03:01 PM

Every time I think Ive gotten this sim to play right something else goes terribly wrong. This time while out on patrol I sink a merchant vessal. Just as she slips below the waves my guys start screaming out damage reports! Just about everything on my boat was destroyed within seconds and by what you ask, the small explosions of the ship I just sunk 500 yards off my port bow!

These bugs are getting old quick.

Last time I uninstalled and reinstalled it was because as soon as I started my mission my guy said periscope damaged followed by periscope repaired on and on and on throughout the whole mission!

(SHIV Gold 1.5 W\RSRD for 1.5 V400, Smaller rocks and plants mod, Websters sub draft fix mod.)

AVGWarhawk · 02-15-09, 03:07 PM

I believe you were to close to the exploding vessel. There is a blast area around exploding vessels that will damage your sub.

Freiwillige · 02-15-09, 03:19 PM

You know that was my initial thought but I was not that close.

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Doolittle81 · 02-15-09, 03:44 PM

The only time I've had that happened, I was too close. If you were firing dead ahead, or nearly so, and your sub was also moving in that direction, and you fired at 500 Meters, you'd very likely have been too close by the time of impact/explosion...Maybe even if you turned port or starboard immediately after firing you'd still have been within the target's explosion envelope. If you were paralleling the target, firing 90 degrees off the bow, then yes it would seem that 500 Meters should have been a safe distance.....

I would think that the explosion radius would vary depending on type of target ship and/or cargo.

Will be interested to hear what you discover if you do some tests on this matter.

Torplexed · 02-15-09, 03:47 PM

Out of curiosity were you submerged or surfaced when this incident happened?

Soundman · 02-15-09, 04:25 PM

Yep, it's happened to me too. It is logical and realistic, that if you are too close to an exploding ship, you could be within the damage radius.

02-15-09, 05:32 PM

an exploding ship is like one huge depth charge on steroids, the more damage you have the further away you need to be not to sustain damage when it explodes.

if this were not true then it wouldnt be very realistic to sit next to a huge explosion and be uneffected by it.

if you go into this game thinking its all messed up then anything bad that happens can be used as an excuse to say its the game and not figure out what you did wrong.

Freiwillige · 02-16-09, 01:42 AM

I was on the surface heading in the same direction. And this all happened after his bow slipped under maybe 2 or 3 seconds after that a huge fireball lit up above the debris field and about 15 seconds later I was toast!

I guess it was an munitions ship carrying the atomic bomb from Germany!:rotfl:

magic452 · 02-16-09, 02:39 AM

It's a good thing you got it or the war might have turned out different.

Consider the loss of your sub a sacrifice for the greater good.

Magic452

elanaiba · 02-16-09, 03:35 AM

If its a munitions ship going boom, it will get you quite far away.

At some point I had a Liner loaded with ammo (by mistake) going highspeed and escorted by a DIDO and a destroyer.

Well, believe me or not, when that liner went up, the Dido went too, while the DD ... was more than one piece by that point.

DaveyJ576 · 02-16-09, 09:10 AM

There is a documented incident of a night surface attack by a fleet boat on an ammo ship that exploded so violently that the boat was peppered by shrapnel and a portion of the boat's own torpedo flew back and landed on the deck! This was from 2000 yards away!

Platapus · 02-16-09, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

If its a munitions ship going boom, it will get you quite far away.

At some point I had a Liner loaded with ammo (by mistake) going highspeed and escorted by a DIDO and a destroyer.

Well, believe me or not, when that liner went up, the Dido went too, while the DD ... was more than one piece by that point.

Did the game give you credit for all three?

elanaiba · 02-16-09, 11:25 AM

Nitpicker :P

Rockin Robbins · 02-16-09, 11:55 AM

That is just great! How can you get mad at a sub simulator that's this much fun? I DO have a problem with Asashio aerodynamics though. Seems like the roll rate is too high...

Three revolutions a second just seems unreasonable...

Torplexed · 02-16-09, 12:11 PM

Hmmmm. Apparently the Asashio was the testbed prototype for the space cruiser Yamato. Go Starblazers.

02-15-09, 03:01 PM	#1
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Is this sim even fixable? Every time I think Ive gotten this sim to play right something else goes terribly wrong. This time while out on patrol I sink a merchant vessal. Just as she slips below the waves my guys start screaming out damage reports! Just about everything on my boat was destroyed within seconds and by what you ask, the small explosions of the ship I just sunk 500 yards off my port bow! These bugs are getting old quick. Last time I uninstalled and reinstalled it was because as soon as I started my mission my guy said periscope damaged followed by periscope repaired on and on and on throughout the whole mission! (SHIV Gold 1.5 W\RSRD for 1.5 V400, Smaller rocks and plants mod, Websters sub draft fix mod.)

02-15-09, 03:07 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I believe you were to close to the exploding vessel. There is a blast area around exploding vessels that will damage your sub. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-15-09, 03:44 PM	#4
Doolittle81 Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 624 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The only time I've had that happened, I was too close. If you were firing dead ahead, or nearly so, and your sub was also moving in that direction, and you fired at 500 Meters, you'd very likely have been too close by the time of impact/explosion...Maybe even if you turned port or starboard immediately after firing you'd still have been within the target's explosion envelope. If you were paralleling the target, firing 90 degrees off the bow, then yes it would seem that 500 Meters should have been a safe distance..... I would think that the explosion radius would vary depending on type of target ship and/or cargo. Will be interested to hear what you discover if you do some tests on this matter. __________________ Flight Sim Movies .............................................. .........................View "Faith, Hope, and Charity" movie

02-15-09, 04:25 PM	#6
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Yep, it's happened to me too. It is logical and realistic, that if you are too close to an exploding ship, you could be within the damage radius. __________________ RVAH-9 RA-5C Vigilante at NAS Sanford, Fl 1966 The coolest plane few have heard of!

02-16-09, 03:35 AM	#10
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	If its a munitions ship going boom, it will get you quite far away. At some point I had a Liner loaded with ammo (by mistake) going highspeed and escorted by a DIDO and a destroyer. Well, believe me or not, when that liner went up, the Dido went too, while the DD ... was more than one piece by that point. __________________ With strength I burn...

02-15-09, 03:19 PM	#3
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	You know that was my initial thought but I was not that close. +============+ = Him ++=+ +============+ ME---> +========+

02-15-09, 03:47 PM	#5
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Out of curiosity were you submerged or surfaced when this incident happened?

02-15-09, 05:32 PM	#7
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	an exploding ship is like one huge depth charge on steroids, the more damage you have the further away you need to be not to sustain damage when it explodes. if this were not true then it wouldnt be very realistic to sit next to a huge explosion and be uneffected by it. if you go into this game thinking its all messed up then anything bad that happens can be used as an excuse to say its the game and not figure out what you did wrong.

02-16-09, 01:42 AM	#8
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I was on the surface heading in the same direction. And this all happened after his bow slipped under maybe 2 or 3 seconds after that a huge fireball lit up above the debris field and about 15 seconds later I was toast! I guess it was an munitions ship carrying the atomic bomb from Germany!:rotfl:

02-16-09, 02:39 AM	#9
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It's a good thing you got it or the war might have turned out different. Consider the loss of your sub a sacrifice for the greater good. Magic452

02-16-09, 09:10 AM	#11
DaveyJ576 Officer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 241 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	There is a documented incident of a night surface attack by a fleet boat on an ammo ship that exploded so violently that the boat was peppered by shrapnel and a portion of the boat's own torpedo flew back and landed on the deck! This was from 2000 yards away!

02-16-09, 11:25 AM	#13
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Nitpicker :P __________________ With strength I burn...

02-16-09, 11:55 AM	#14
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	That is just great! How can you get mad at a sub simulator that's this much fun? I DO have a problem with Asashio aerodynamics though. Seems like the roll rate is too high... Three revolutions a second just seems unreasonable... __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

02-16-09, 12:11 PM	#15
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Hmmmm. Apparently the Asashio was the testbed prototype for the space cruiser Yamato. Go Starblazers.