How do you use radars?

frenema · 05-23-08, 03:24 PM

I finally made it to 1942 for the first time (sadly...) and I installed the first radar available: FuMO-29. My first patrol with it and I have no clue as to what its function is. I switched it on for continuous sweep and it's as if it doesn't exist. I do realize it can only work on surface, but it just isn't detecting anything. Any ideas?

FIREWALL · 05-23-08, 03:31 PM

It only detects on a small frontal section. And at the moment Idon't remember the range but it's not real long.

It doesn't work good in bad weather either.

Subject · 05-23-08, 04:14 PM

Don't get me started on the radar...

Kinda immersion killer for me and finally got so tired of ships being spotted way before getting radar contact, that I pimped the Fumo.
Now range is ~12 km in good weather and 5-7 km in heavy rain/fog.

Feels much better!

richardphat · 05-23-08, 07:21 PM

would naxos or the next model would be suggest to get?

Hartmann · 05-23-08, 07:34 PM

Early radars are like a flashlight in the dark for allied planes and destroyers and are only useful in bad weather. My first radar is always switched off.

Very different experience when i´ve played sh1, where the radar was very useful for track convoys, enemy submarines, task forces, and plot good intercept routes.
allied ASW is a lot better

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-23-08, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

It doesn't work good in bad weather either.

No you are incorrect, the opposite is true Firewall.

Also, the coverage area depends on the model. The early U-boat radars only covered a small arc to the front. Later versions covered 360 degrees.

To use the radars, rotate the radar wheel until you see this: (That spike is your contact.)

JHuschke · 05-23-08, 09:39 PM

Ahh..I've stared at radar for too long!

Murr44 · 05-24-08, 06:27 AM

Use the early radar for short periods only. As was previously stated, allied aircraft & warships can home in on the emissions & find you when you least expect it. I was attacked by an aircraft in the middle of an overcast, pitch black night; simply because I had neglected to make sure the radar was off. Didn't suffer any casualties or damage but it was a pretty close shave...

Hartmann · 05-24-08, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murr44

Use the early radar for short periods only. As was previously stated, allied aircraft & warships can home in on the emissions & find you when you least expect it. I was attacked by an aircraft in the middle of an overcast, pitch black night; simply because I had neglected to make sure the radar was off. Didn't suffer any casualties or damage but it was a pretty close shave...

yes is better a radar detector.

the allied plane have to search at night with the radar while you can detect his emisions and dive at time.

the problem is know the range of the aircraft and know if it is aproaching.

Murr44 · 05-24-08, 05:20 PM

What I meant is that the plane found me because I'd left the radar on. It was sending out a "Here I am. Come and get me" invitation to every enemy aircraft or ship nearby. That's why I said that the early radar should be used be very short periods of time & then turned off.

frenema · 05-24-08, 08:58 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions, I guess I was lucky that no one found me when I had my radar on for the entire patrol.

One more question regarding the radar: does the radar man report the contact, or do I have to use it manually to find the contacts? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I was just wondering because on my last patrol the radar man didn't report any contact although the ship was right ahead of me.

And why don't we just add in another tech to thread?
After my last patrol I got a sonar set up in my sub now and I was wondering how it should be used. Will the enemy merchants and/or escorts know if I am pinging them?

I know I have lot of questions, it's just that all these new technologies just started popping up at end of 1942.

chanbasti · 01-30-09, 11:23 AM

i decided that since the benefits of radar are no even close the the drawbacks...so i will not be buying it this career around. also my radar has this weird thing that it will keep turning itself on even after i order it turned off. i can you use the little icon command and that won't keep it off, or i can go to the station ad click the little switch to off. as soon as i leave the station it comes back on. it's even on underwater??? so no RADAR for me. it's just no good. relying on my Mk.1 eyeballs here. will be buying a RWR. that thing is great.

FIREWALL · 01-30-09, 11:50 AM

I still don't think the early one works worth a shet.

nikbear · 01-31-09, 07:27 PM

Could someone please clear this up once and for all,I thought that the RAF couldn't detect the emmisions from the early german radars and that the story was made up by a captured pilot which made the germans think twice,so Donitz gave the order for them not to be used.None of it was true,it was just the allies putting the germans of the scent that they had built centimetric radar which the germans thought impossible to be fitted to allied planes,so which is it

and which version is modelled in GWX,can we leave the radar on

Etienne · 01-31-09, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikbear

Could someone please clear this up once and for all,I thought that the RAF couldn't detect the emmisions from the early german radars and that the story was made up by a captured pilot which made the germans think twice,so Donitz gave the order for them not to be used.None of it was true,it was just the allies putting the germans of the scent that they had built centimetric radar which the germans thought impossible to be fitted to allied planes,so which is it

and which version is modelled in GWX,can we leave the radar on

That was the Metox (IIRC) radar detector. Some guy managed to get the Germans to believe they could detect the emission from a passive system from hundred of miles away.

...yeah.

05-23-08, 03:24 PM	#1
frenema Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 116 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	How do you use radars? I finally made it to 1942 for the first time (sadly...) and I installed the first radar available: FuMO-29. My first patrol with it and I have no clue as to what its function is. I switched it on for continuous sweep and it's as if it doesn't exist. I do realize it can only work on surface, but it just isn't detecting anything. Any ideas?

05-23-08, 03:31 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	It only detects on a small frontal section. And at the moment Idon't remember the range but it's not real long. It doesn't work good in bad weather either. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-23-08, 04:14 PM	#3
Subject Sparky Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 158 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't get me started on the radar... Kinda immersion killer for me and finally got so tired of ships being spotted way before getting radar contact, that I pimped the Fumo. Now range is ~12 km in good weather and 5-7 km in heavy rain/fog. Feels much better! __________________

05-23-08, 07:34 PM	#5
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Early radars are like a flashlight in the dark for allied planes and destroyers and are only useful in bad weather. My first radar is always switched off. Very different experience when i´ve played sh1, where the radar was very useful for track convoys, enemy submarines, task forces, and plot good intercept routes. allied ASW is a lot better __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

01-30-09, 11:50 AM	#13
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I still don't think the early one works worth a shet. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-23-08, 07:21 PM	#4
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	would naxos or the next model would be suggest to get?

05-23-08, 09:39 PM	#7
JHuschke XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 432 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Ahh..I've stared at radar for too long!

05-24-08, 06:27 AM	#8
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Use the early radar for short periods only. As was previously stated, allied aircraft & warships can home in on the emissions & find you when you least expect it. I was attacked by an aircraft in the middle of an overcast, pitch black night; simply because I had neglected to make sure the radar was off. Didn't suffer any casualties or damage but it was a pretty close shave...

05-24-08, 05:20 PM	#10
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	What I meant is that the plane found me because I'd left the radar on. It was sending out a "Here I am. Come and get me" invitation to every enemy aircraft or ship nearby. That's why I said that the early radar should be used be very short periods of time & then turned off.

05-24-08, 08:58 PM	#11
frenema Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 116 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all the suggestions, I guess I was lucky that no one found me when I had my radar on for the entire patrol. One more question regarding the radar: does the radar man report the contact, or do I have to use it manually to find the contacts? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I was just wondering because on my last patrol the radar man didn't report any contact although the ship was right ahead of me. And why don't we just add in another tech to thread? After my last patrol I got a sonar set up in my sub now and I was wondering how it should be used. Will the enemy merchants and/or escorts know if I am pinging them? I know I have lot of questions, it's just that all these new technologies just started popping up at end of 1942.

01-30-09, 11:23 AM	#12
chanbasti A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: US eastern seaboard Posts: 75 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	i decided that since the benefits of radar are no even close the the drawbacks...so i will not be buying it this career around. also my radar has this weird thing that it will keep turning itself on even after i order it turned off. i can you use the little icon command and that won't keep it off, or i can go to the station ad click the little switch to off. as soon as i leave the station it comes back on. it's even on underwater??? so no RADAR for me. it's just no good. relying on my Mk.1 eyeballs here. will be buying a RWR. that thing is great.

01-31-09, 07:27 PM	#14
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Could someone please clear this up once and for all,I thought that the RAF couldn't detect the emmisions from the early german radars and that the story was made up by a captured pilot which made the germans think twice,so Donitz gave the order for them not to be used.None of it was true,it was just the allies putting the germans of the scent that they had built centimetric radar which the germans thought impossible to be fitted to allied planes,so which is itand which version is modelled in GWX,can we leave the radar on __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.