Going mad! How do I add a second deck gun?

Nisgeis · 03-02-08, 11:41 AM

I'm sure I've added a second deck gun before, but for the life of me I can't seem to add another one. I've tried starting a new career with Porpoise classes through 1941-45 also Tambor and Balao class subs, but there is only the option to replace the bow gun with the stern gun.

I did a search, but only found threads on problems mannig the second deck gun.

Anyone any ideas? Also, is there a 5" gun available as an upgrade?

Raptor1 · 03-02-08, 11:42 AM

There are some mods with the USS Narwhal, which had 2 6" guns, maybe your referring to that...

maerean_m · 03-02-08, 11:48 AM

You can't. The game's engine only allows one deck gun.

Raptor1 · 03-02-08, 11:59 AM

But i've played with the Narwhal, it has 2 deck guns, but you can only manually man 1 of them (works fine with the crew manning them...)

JREX53 · 03-02-08, 01:56 PM

Raptor1,

The Narwhal is not a stock submarine. It was added by Ducimus (Trigger Maru) and FooFighter (the skin).

There is a way to have 2 deck guns, but you have to get into some files to set up the crew manning manually. I don't remember which files though, sorry.

edit: Look at Fincun's post on this thread.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=missing+crew

Raptor1 · 03-02-08, 01:58 PM

I know, but it shows that the game engine does support it

JREX53 · 03-02-08, 02:02 PM

I know, I have installed 2 deck guns before, but I could only put men on 1 of the guns.

I have not tried Fincun's fix but it works.

Nisgeis · 03-03-08, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JREX53

I know, I have installed 2 deck guns before, but I could only put men on 1 of the guns.

I have not tried Fincun's fix but it works.

Did you have the second deck gun on the Narwahl mod or was it a standard sub? I can't remember for sure, but I wasn't big on mods back when I first started with SH4 and I don't think I ever tried that mod.

JREX53 · 03-03-08, 11:04 AM

It wasn't on the Narwhal.

I think it was either a Tambor or Gato, but I am not sure, it was a few months ago.

Edit: I am not even sure if I took it to sea. I think because I couldn't man the second Gun I just removed it and started the career. So I think it was before Fincun's fix came out.

DS · 03-04-08, 01:35 AM

Aside from the Narwal mod, I believe stock SH4 as well as the RFB and TM super mods allow Balaos, and maybe Gatos, to have two deck guns, but only in 1945. I have had this option before with no special related mods aside from TM.

neosnk35 · 01-26-09, 11:50 AM

yup on my last career i got that too on my ballao... fore and aft, but i think its only available for the 5'25 cal.. and i have seen a fix for it to both manned by the crew (cant remember the thread) or ai.. you can man only one though.. playing vanilla 1.2 sh4

clayp · 01-26-09, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m

You can't. The game's engine only allows one deck gun.

This is not true,in SH4 I run a Gato with two 5.25 guns..I will try to post the relevent files later today....This is in 1941 and both guns are manned...

SteamWake · 01-26-09, 12:44 PM

Meh I hardley use the one I have now, another gun would be just more weight and drag /shrug

clayp · 01-26-09, 11:29 PM

I'm trying to upload the files to filefront they are in a mod I made for myself but I'm having trouble getting them to upload,I will keep trying..

Fincuan · 01-27-09, 12:03 AM

A few more months and we could have celebrated the one-year anniversary of this thread

What maerean_m, who is a member of the dev team to those who didn't know, said is correct in one sense: You can only man one deck gun yourself, no matter how many are installed.

You can however install as up to four guns of any type by editing the correct files. Weight and drag aren't an issue because the dg has no effect on them. If it had this sub would be in big trouble:

That's four of Yamato's turrets on a Balao

03-02-08, 11:41 AM	#1
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Going mad! How do I add a second deck gun? I'm sure I've added a second deck gun before, but for the life of me I can't seem to add another one. I've tried starting a new career with Porpoise classes through 1941-45 also Tambor and Balao class subs, but there is only the option to replace the bow gun with the stern gun. I did a search, but only found threads on problems mannig the second deck gun. Anyone any ideas? Also, is there a 5" gun available as an upgrade? Last edited by Nisgeis; 03-02-08 at 12:43 PM.

03-02-08, 11:42 AM	#2
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	There are some mods with the USS Narwhal, which had 2 6" guns, maybe your referring to that... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-02-08, 11:48 AM	#3
maerean_m Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 529 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can't. The game's engine only allows one deck gun. __________________ Kilroy was here

03-02-08, 11:59 AM	#4
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	But i've played with the Narwhal, it has 2 deck guns, but you can only manually man 1 of them (works fine with the crew manning them...) __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-02-08, 01:56 PM	#5
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	Raptor1, The Narwhal is not a stock submarine. It was added by Ducimus (Trigger Maru) and FooFighter (the skin). There is a way to have 2 deck guns, but you have to get into some files to set up the crew manning manually. I don't remember which files though, sorry. edit: Look at Fincun's post on this thread. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=missing+crew __________________ Jim

03-02-08, 01:58 PM	#6
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I know, but it shows that the game engine does support it __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-02-08, 02:02 PM	#7
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	I know, I have installed 2 deck guns before, but I could only put men on 1 of the guns. I have not tried Fincun's fix but it works. __________________ Jim

03-03-08, 11:04 AM	#9
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	It wasn't on the Narwhal. I think it was either a Tambor or Gato, but I am not sure, it was a few months ago. Edit: I am not even sure if I took it to sea. I think because I couldn't man the second Gun I just removed it and started the career. So I think it was before Fincun's fix came out. __________________ Jim Last edited by JREX53; 03-03-08 at 11:42 AM.

03-04-08, 01:35 AM	#10
DS Planesman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 185 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Aside from the Narwal mod, I believe stock SH4 as well as the RFB and TM super mods allow Balaos, and maybe Gatos, to have two deck guns, but only in 1945. I have had this option before with no special related mods aside from TM. __________________

01-26-09, 11:50 AM	#11
neosnk35 A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 78 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	deck gun yup on my last career i got that too on my ballao... fore and aft, but i think its only available for the 5'25 cal.. and i have seen a fix for it to both manned by the crew (cant remember the thread) or ai.. you can man only one though.. playing vanilla 1.2 sh4

01-26-09, 12:44 PM	#13
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Meh I hardley use the one I have now, another gun would be just more weight and drag /shrug

01-26-09, 11:29 PM	#14
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	I'm trying to upload the files to filefront they are in a mod I made for myself but I'm having trouble getting them to upload,I will keep trying.. __________________ clayp

01-27-09, 12:03 AM	#15
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	A few more months and we could have celebrated the one-year anniversary of this thread What maerean_m, who is a member of the dev team to those who didn't know, said is correct in one sense: You can only man one deck gun yourself, no matter how many are installed. You can however install as up to four guns of any type by editing the correct files. Weight and drag aren't an issue because the dg has no effect on them. If it had this sub would be in big trouble: That's four of Yamato's turrets on a Balao