My first GWX3.0 patrol

Spike88 · 01-12-09, 06:04 PM

I downloaded GWX earlier today(took like 10 minutes with my connection

) I finally get around to installing it this afternoon and go to play. Choose the 7th/13th Flotilla, upgrade my hydrophone and fill in my crew slots. I finally depart from my base the second day after the game starts, in 1939. I get orders to patrol a sector thats nearby. I have 3 points on my map that say there are targets there. So I head to them, to find 2 ships at each one. They have the British flags, but they're showing up as green. Ignoring this I sink them anyways, plus two ships that were leaving the area. I sink up to 20-30 tons. Happy with my work I start to return to my base, which is about an hour away. When my watch reports two more ships, I check and see that they're British and sink them with my deck gun. But unlike the other 8 ships I sank, they didn't show up in my log and the ship sunk icon didn't appear. I continue on my way to my dock. About 10 minutes away from the actual dock part, I realize that I'm taking damage. I check to see that I didn't hit anything, but thats not the case. I slow down time compression to 1 and realize I'm being fired on. Before I can finally come to realization that its a German boat attacking me, I'm sunk.

What did I do wrong to be attacked?

meduza · 01-12-09, 06:41 PM

If you attack a neutral ship, all neutral nations will be hostile to you for 24 hours. Since you started the career in August 1939, the war hasn't begun yet, and all the nations are still neutral, including Germany. That's why they fired on you.

Next time wait until September.

If you don't want to wait, you can set the starting month in SH3 Commander.

Weiss Pinguin · 01-12-09, 06:43 PM

If you start with the 7th? flotilla your orders are to sink the target ships in that vicinity. What I did was sail back to port submerged. Can't remember if it worked though.

meduza · 01-12-09, 06:45 PM

You should hit Escape button and Return to base.

Weiss Pinguin · 01-12-09, 06:47 PM

But it's more fun to sneak back to base underwater. Good practice for late war attacks.

meduza · 01-12-09, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiß Pinguin

But it's more fun to sneak back to base underwater. Good practice for late war attacks.

When you put it that way, I guess you do have a point. First you practice targeting, and then evasion.

Spike88 · 01-12-09, 07:54 PM

If their neutral will I still get the renown? Because when I died and it showed my career report it said I had -600 renown. I didn't know if that was because I died, or because of the ships I sunk. Also when I sunk the other two ships that weren't listed as Target ships, they sank but the marker didn't show up on the map, was I not supposed to sink these? I was sure they had British flags.

Freiwillige · 01-12-09, 07:59 PM

I had that same question 2 weeks agao and was told to stay out 4 24 hours after attacking!

Nemisis · 01-12-09, 08:26 PM

This also happened to me on my first patrol in GWX3 the other day. Starting in the 7th flotilla in August 1939 your orders are "to sink the target ships, 2 ship convoy and perform shake down operations" . "You will recieve more orders on the 4th of August" it says.

So with those orders that is exactly what i did, i sank the target ships (English flags) the 2 ship convoy (English flags) and upon returning to base on the 4th after recieving orders to do so i got -650 renoun for sinking the 2 ship convoy (Cheers for that i thought) but then my campaign went totally screwy after that and i'm just about to start it again after a reinstall.

Spike88 · 01-12-09, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemisis

This also happened to me on my first patrol in GWX3 the other day. Starting in the 7th flotilla in August 1939 your orders are "to sink the target ships, 2 ship convoy and perform shake down operations" . "You will recieve more orders on the 4th of August" it says.

So with those orders that is exactly what i did, i sank the target ships (English flags) the 2 ship convoy (English flags) and upon returning to base on the 4th after recieving orders to do so i got -650 renoun for sinking the 2 ship convoy (Cheers for that i thought) but then my campaign went totally screwy after that and i'm just about to start it again after a reinstall.

So you got negative renown for it? Thats funny because after I sank 4/10 ships I ended up sinking in that mission I did a status report and was told to keep up my good work.

StarLion45 · 01-12-09, 09:22 PM

What are you doing

Sinking neutral ships in peace time

Shame on you

Report to Bdu immediately

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Just joking .

BE MORE AGRESSIVE:p

A Very Super Market · 01-12-09, 09:27 PM

You guys must have sunk something other than the target ships, because your renown should only go down to about 1500-ish.

And you'll come to love BdU in a few weeks...

Spike88 · 01-12-09, 11:47 PM

Why does pre-war start so far before the war? Its a month of doing nothing much.

Ah well, lets me catch up on my reading.

A Very Super Market · 01-13-09, 12:17 AM

After the 4th you will get a message from BdU with some information on what to do. Dock at your home port, and your next patrol will start on August 30-ish, use that time to manuevre into a hiding place, even Scapa if you're daring enough (Though I don't think there is anything there at that time.)

bigboywooly · 01-13-09, 09:41 AM

Of course all this info was in the GWX 2.1 release thread so those new to SH3 wont have seen it

Yes the target ships are British but as its August 39 they are neutral
Everyone is neutral
Which is why your own side will fire on you
You start with higher renown in the 7th than the other flotillas to make up for the loss of sinking neutral ships
Of course you dont have to sink them just use them for torpedo drills etc

As the radio message says - esc to port on getting it - 4th IIRC
The days in port are set to 20 - unless you take damage which will add days - so if you dock on the 4th your next patrol will start 24th\25th
Enough time for you to get to your patrol grid before war starts
As was historical

If you sink the 2 ship convoy once the game classes them as finished but will spawn them again so shooting wont give you renown or a sunk icon
The above is often why ppl get no credit for sinking a ship soon after sinking a similar one in the same area

Upsides are your crew have one patrol experience and you can sometimes get no renown after first patrol which can be a real pisser if you sunk half the home fleet
Shakedown patrol avoids that

Using SH3commander you can always start in Sept if you like

01-12-09, 06:04 PM	#1
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	My first GWX3.0 patrol I downloaded GWX earlier today(took like 10 minutes with my connection ) I finally get around to installing it this afternoon and go to play. Choose the 7th/13th Flotilla, upgrade my hydrophone and fill in my crew slots. I finally depart from my base the second day after the game starts, in 1939. I get orders to patrol a sector thats nearby. I have 3 points on my map that say there are targets there. So I head to them, to find 2 ships at each one. They have the British flags, but they're showing up as green. Ignoring this I sink them anyways, plus two ships that were leaving the area. I sink up to 20-30 tons. Happy with my work I start to return to my base, which is about an hour away. When my watch reports two more ships, I check and see that they're British and sink them with my deck gun. But unlike the other 8 ships I sank, they didn't show up in my log and the ship sunk icon didn't appear. I continue on my way to my dock. About 10 minutes away from the actual dock part, I realize that I'm taking damage. I check to see that I didn't hit anything, but thats not the case. I slow down time compression to 1 and realize I'm being fired on. Before I can finally come to realization that its a German boat attacking me, I'm sunk. What did I do wrong to be attacked?

01-12-09, 06:41 PM	#2
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	If you attack a neutral ship, all neutral nations will be hostile to you for 24 hours. Since you started the career in August 1939, the war hasn't begun yet, and all the nations are still neutral, including Germany. That's why they fired on you. Next time wait until September. If you don't want to wait, you can set the starting month in SH3 Commander. __________________

01-12-09, 06:43 PM	#3
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	If you start with the 7th? flotilla your orders are to sink the target ships in that vicinity. What I did was sail back to port submerged. Can't remember if it worked though. __________________

01-12-09, 06:45 PM	#4
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	You should hit Escape button and Return to base. __________________

01-12-09, 06:47 PM	#5
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	But it's more fun to sneak back to base underwater. Good practice for late war attacks. __________________

01-12-09, 07:54 PM	#7
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	If their neutral will I still get the renown? Because when I died and it showed my career report it said I had -600 renown. I didn't know if that was because I died, or because of the ships I sunk. Also when I sunk the other two ships that weren't listed as Target ships, they sank but the marker didn't show up on the map, was I not supposed to sink these? I was sure they had British flags.

01-12-09, 07:59 PM	#8
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I had that same question 2 weeks agao and was told to stay out 4 24 hours after attacking!

01-12-09, 08:26 PM	#9
Nemisis Watch Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This also happened to me on my first patrol in GWX3 the other day. Starting in the 7th flotilla in August 1939 your orders are "to sink the target ships, 2 ship convoy and perform shake down operations" . "You will recieve more orders on the 4th of August" it says. So with those orders that is exactly what i did, i sank the target ships (English flags) the 2 ship convoy (English flags) and upon returning to base on the 4th after recieving orders to do so i got -650 renoun for sinking the 2 ship convoy (Cheers for that i thought) but then my campaign went totally screwy after that and i'm just about to start it again after a reinstall.

01-12-09, 09:22 PM	#11
StarLion45 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stavanger,Norway Posts: 895 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	What the....!!!!!!!!!! What are you doing Sinking neutral ships in peace time Shame on you Report to Bdu immediately :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Just joking . BE MORE AGRESSIVE:p

01-12-09, 09:27 PM	#12
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You guys must have sunk something other than the target ships, because your renown should only go down to about 1500-ish. And you'll come to love BdU in a few weeks... __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-12-09, 11:47 PM	#13
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Why does pre-war start so far before the war? Its a month of doing nothing much. Ah well, lets me catch up on my reading.

01-13-09, 12:17 AM	#14
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	After the 4th you will get a message from BdU with some information on what to do. Dock at your home port, and your next patrol will start on August 30-ish, use that time to manuevre into a hiding place, even Scapa if you're daring enough (Though I don't think there is anything there at that time.) __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-13-09, 09:41 AM	#15
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Of course all this info was in the GWX 2.1 release thread so those new to SH3 wont have seen it Yes the target ships are British but as its August 39 they are neutral Everyone is neutral Which is why your own side will fire on you You start with higher renown in the 7th than the other flotillas to make up for the loss of sinking neutral ships Of course you dont have to sink them just use them for torpedo drills etc As the radio message says - esc to port on getting it - 4th IIRC The days in port are set to 20 - unless you take damage which will add days - so if you dock on the 4th your next patrol will start 24th\25th Enough time for you to get to your patrol grid before war starts As was historical If you sink the 2 ship convoy once the game classes them as finished but will spawn them again so shooting wont give you renown or a sunk icon The above is often why ppl get no credit for sinking a ship soon after sinking a similar one in the same area Upsides are your crew have one patrol experience and you can sometimes get no renown after first patrol which can be a real pisser if you sunk half the home fleet Shakedown patrol avoids that Using SH3commander you can always start in Sept if you like __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41