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Old 01-03-09, 05:22 PM   #1
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This video is made by one of the the bad guys over there. The cameraman is filming his "friend" as he launches mortar shots at American troops.

Little does Achmed know that new mortar shell tracking technology can track the trajectory of a hostile round and fire a retaliatory shot to precisely the spot from which the hostile shell was fired from. There is only one catch to the requirements. It requires the hostile mortar to fire 2 to 3 rounds. Make SURE you count the number of mortar rounds the masked insurgent fires in the video until he meets them virgins in another world.

http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/...tar_Rounds.wmv

I've always wondered what you do with all them virgins.
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Old 01-03-09, 06:14 PM   #2
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Thats some stunning technology right there.
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Old 01-03-09, 07:54 PM   #3
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So who says those virgins will be female. I think this guy will get 72 she-males, for his military prowess.:rotfl:
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Old 01-03-09, 08:03 PM   #4
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Given his crappy-looking equipment, I'd say that was his own round detonating inside the tube.


Or a joke vid.
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Old 01-03-09, 08:04 PM   #5
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Ironic, wasn't it, how they were shouting "Allahu Akhbar" every time he fires a shot...well, until "Artillery Akhbar". Crack! Crack! Crack...BOOOM!

Still, when you consider transit time of the counterbattery fire, time needed to disseminate information, time needed to aim and fire, I have to say: good job for the CB guys.

Any chance of seeing this on Iranian State TV soon?:hmm:
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Old 01-03-09, 08:07 PM   #6
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Given his crappy-looking equipment, I'd say that was his own round detonating inside the tube.


Or a joke vid.
That would have to be a hell of a mortar shell to blow up like that in the tube, considering its size (60mm-82mm). Joke vid, possible but unlikely.

And you have to remember, mortars are often quite crude-looking, but they get the job the job done. You only having to remember the IRA propane mortars, for instance.
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Old 01-03-09, 08:13 PM   #7
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I particurally enjoyed the manual aiming method
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Old 01-03-09, 08:44 PM   #8
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That one always gets a smile on my face.

I'd say(having actually worked with both heavy and light mortars and fired them) that's a shell blowing up inside the tube, or at least that's what the makers of that vid want to indicate. In that timeframe it would be impossible to get CB fire to that location because just the flight time would be longer than the whole video.
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Old 01-03-09, 10:14 PM   #9
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I stopped the video at 16 seconds then played it frame by frame. Seems the the direction of the blast initially expanded out through of the muzzle of the mortar tube and out the back along the ground a few feet then into a ball of fire and smoke


I have to add that for some reason it made me think of Monty Python and The Holy Grail.

...And Saint Atilla raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... ["skip a bit, brother"]... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." Amen.

"ONE! TWO! FIVE!" Sir Galahad corrects him, shouting "Three, Sir!" Arthur then yells "THREE!" and hurls the grenade at the killer rabbit. The Grenade soars through the air, accompanied by a short bit of choral music, then bounces once and explodes.
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Old 01-03-09, 10:42 PM   #10
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Oh yeah ,it's definitely an own goal - In the words of Achmed the dead terrorist "There's a bunch of ugly assed guys out there ,Are you my Virgins? ,Oh Crap I'm screeewwwwed" :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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Oh, okay. Hell of an explosion for a light mortar, though.

That makes the failure even more embarrassing. "Heroically killed by own mortar shell" just doesn't have the same ring as "heroically martyred by American artillery.
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Also, wouldn't you be able to hear the incoming rounds in the video?
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I didn't think that was that big an explosion, it seemed pretty confined to me. Also, the rather haphazard (read: idiotic) way he is handling his ammunition and mortar supports the premature detonation theory. It has to be a joke vid, why would terrorists put such an embarrasing video for everyone to see?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky
This video is made by one of the the bad guys over there. The cameraman is filming his "friend" as he launches mortar shots at American troops.

Little does Achmed know that new mortar shell tracking technology can track the trajectory of a hostile round and fire a retaliatory shot to precisely the spot from which the hostile shell was fired from. There is only one catch to the requirements. It requires the hostile mortar to fire 2 to 3 rounds. Make SURE you count the number of mortar rounds the masked insurgent fires in the video until he meets them virgins in another world.

http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/...tar_Rounds.wmv

I've always wondered what you do with all them virgins.

I have some serious doubts as to the accuracy of those statements.

First of all, counterbattery fire is directed by seperate, ground-based "firefinder" radar, not by guided shells. This is especially true in the case of a mortar round. There may be "smart" mortars in our arsenal, but rest assured that their functions do not include tracking hostile fire to determine and attack the P.O.O. (point of origin, terrible acronym ) They are simply too small, and lack sufficient "hang-time" to accquire a target, especially if that target had to fire more than once.

I'm inclined to believe that the blast in this video is either fake or came from an equipment malfunction, as A Very Super Market (whose name is a pain to type ), and a couple others seem to think.
The time between the first round fired and the detonation is way, way too short for a counterbattery attack. The information on shell trajectory has to be interpreted by the radar operator (automatic process showing a grid square on newer equipment) and then relayed, by radio, to the firing battery or mortar platoon. For the round to land directly on the guy, at least a 12-digit grid square would be needed. Then the information has to be sent to the firing computer, which will compute a solution for each firing position. Then the mortar or gun crew has to aim their weapon, and load if required, all before the target can be engaged.

Simply put, even if the target was accquired and the counterbattery crew was on standby with a loaded weapon (not possible with field artillery, which requires the additional information of which powder bag(s) to use), there is no way in hell that they could aim and fire in that amount of time, let alone the time needed for shell travel.

The insurgent in this vid was either hit by a direct-fire or aerial weapon, or his round cooked off, or the vid is a fake.

Still fun to watch, though.
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I didn't think that was that big an explosion, it seemed pretty confined to me. Also, the rather haphazard (read: idiotic) way he is handling his ammunition and mortar supports the premature detonation theory. It has to be a joke vid, why would terrorists put such an embarrasing video for everyone to see?
I suspect it was real. After the explosion any survivors ran out of the area leaving comrads and equipment behind. Troops sent to search the area probably found the camera and itty bitty peices of the star of the show.
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