Obama chooses Rick Warren

Frame57 · 12-18-08, 12:06 PM

Well, you will be seeing this on the news today. Obama chose Pastor Rick Warren to officiate swearing in the soon to be POTUS. Intersting choice I thought. Comically, I thought how funny it would be to have Jeremiah Wright perform this ceremony. The extreme right was concerned that he would use a Koran rather than a Bible upon which to place his hand. The Gay community especially here in CA has already erupted in flames over this choice. Guess you cannot please all the people all the time.

Aramike · 12-18-08, 03:32 PM

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Guess you cannot please all the people all the time.

Truer words have never been spoken...

baggygreen · 12-18-08, 07:11 PM

And what is rick warrens background that the gay and lesbian community are so angry?

August · 12-18-08, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

And what is rick warrens background that the gay and lesbian community are so angry?

He supported Californias proposition 8 (ban on gay marriages).

Frame57 · 12-18-08, 08:58 PM

Well, I just do not see what the problem is. First of all the "Gay" community does not represent the majority of people here in America. Secondly, this is for the inauguration ceremony. Not like he is appointing the fellow to be a cabinet member. Thirdly, Obama professes to be a Christian and I guess he wanted a Christian to officiate the ceremony.

A Very Super Market · 12-18-08, 09:59 PM

What? You mean Obama isn't a muslim!!!?

Just cuz he selected a guy against gay marriage doesn't mean Obama is...

Enigma · 12-19-08, 10:21 AM

Yeah, this whole thing is very silly. I could care less what this man's opinions and positions are. I disagree with him, but so does Obama. It's absurd this is the fodder of "news" talk shows right now. As if anyone should care.

Frame57 · 12-19-08, 10:33 AM

I am pretty sure BO publicly announced his faith. He is for traditional marriage, but I think he was against prop 8 which is why people are in a rage over this....

AVGWarhawk · 12-19-08, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

Well, I just do not see what the problem is. First of all the "Gay" community does not represent the majority of people here in America. Secondly, this is for the inauguration ceremony. Not like he is appointing the fellow to be a cabinet member. Thirdly, Obama professes to be a Christian and I guess he wanted a Christian to officiate the ceremony.

What the gay community is attempting to do is turn this in to a civil rights issue. Is it really a civil right issue? I think not.

What do you fellas think?

AVGWarhawk · 12-19-08, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

I am pretty sure BO publicly announced his faith. He is for traditional marriage, but I think he was against prop 8 which is why people are in a rage over this....

BO said he did not support gay marriage. I believe he stated this in one of the debates.

Enigma · 12-19-08, 10:37 AM

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What the gay community is attempting to do is turn this in to a civil rights issue. Is it really a civil right issue? I think not.

What do you fellas think?

Is Obama's choice of this man a civil rights issue? No.

Is prop 8, or denying gay folks the right to marry a civil rights issue? Absolutely.

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"A couple of years ago, I was invited to Rick Warren's church to speak, despite his awareness that I held views that were entirely contrary to his when it came to gay and lesbian rights, when it came to issues like abortion," he said. "Nevertheless, I had an opportunity to speak. And that dialogue, I think, is part of what my campaign's been all about -- that we're not going to agree on every single issue, but what we have to do is to be able to create an atmosphere where we can disagree without being disagreeable and then focus on those things that we hold in common as Americans." -Barack Obama

That's podium speak for: "Liberals. I know this upsets some of you, and I don't care". And frankly, I agree with him.

Frame57 · 12-19-08, 10:58 AM

Definitely they are using it for their agenda. Gays do not marry or want to marry to have a family as nature dictates, they cannot unless they adopt. So it is just a slick way for them to manipulate the system and rape the tax payer for benefits. It will burden companies and the social security system further. The reality is that we are allowing sexual based behavior to hijack traditional family structures for money and benefits. What's next the beastiality freaks will have the same argument and the ACLU will no doubt support them as well.

Enigma · 12-19-08, 11:14 AM

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Definitely they are using it for their agenda. Gays do not marry or want to marry to have a family as nature dictates, they cannot unless they adopt. So it is just a slick way for them to manipulate the system and rape the tax payer for benefits. It will burden companies and the social security system further. The reality is that we are allowing sexual based behavior to hijack traditional family structures for money and benefits. What's next the beastiality freaks will have the same argument and the ACLU will no doubt support them as well.

Anybody that equated 2 HUMAN homosexuals wanting to be married with bestiality, (even while spelling bestiality incorrectly) has no place in the conversation. If you consider gay people less than human, then who are you to speak on human rights?

AVGWarhawk · 12-19-08, 11:15 AM

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Is prop 8, or denying gay folks the right to marry a civil rights issue? Absolutely.

How? The civil right movement was for voter rights, equal opportunity in work, pay and abolishing segregation. This movement was for a race of peoples, not a decision to marry. I think they are far off the mark by labeling this a civil rights movement. What civil rights have they lost?

AVGWarhawk · 12-19-08, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

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Definitely they are using it for their agenda. Gays do not marry or want to marry to have a family as nature dictates, they cannot unless they adopt. So it is just a slick way for them to manipulate the system and rape the tax payer for benefits. It will burden companies and the social security system further. The reality is that we are allowing sexual based behavior to hijack traditional family structures for money and benefits. What's next the beastiality freaks will have the same argument and the ACLU will no doubt support them as well.

Anybody that equated 2 HUMAN homosexuals wanting to be married with bestiality, (even while spelling bestiality incorrectly) has no place in the conversation. If you consider gay people less than human, then who are you to speak on human rights?

I think he was pointing out that if this 'odd' behavior as some see it gets the OK, then any other 'odd' behavior will be drawn in under the same premise. In other words, should the 'odd' behavior of the Man/Boy group be included now?

12-18-08, 12:06 PM	#1
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Obama chooses Rick Warren Well, you will be seeing this on the news today. Obama chose Pastor Rick Warren to officiate swearing in the soon to be POTUS. Intersting choice I thought. Comically, I thought how funny it would be to have Jeremiah Wright perform this ceremony. The extreme right was concerned that he would use a Koran rather than a Bible upon which to place his hand. The Gay community especially here in CA has already erupted in flames over this choice. Guess you cannot please all the people all the time.

12-18-08, 09:59 PM	#6
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What? You mean Obama isn't a muslim!!!? Just cuz he selected a guy against gay marriage doesn't mean Obama is... __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

12-19-08, 10:21 AM	#7
Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah, this whole thing is very silly. I could care less what this man's opinions and positions are. I disagree with him, but so does Obama. It's absurd this is the fodder of "news" talk shows right now. As if anyone should care. __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	And what is rick warrens background that the gay and lesbian community are so angry?

12-18-08, 08:58 PM	#5
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well, I just do not see what the problem is. First of all the "Gay" community does not represent the majority of people here in America. Secondly, this is for the inauguration ceremony. Not like he is appointing the fellow to be a cabinet member. Thirdly, Obama professes to be a Christian and I guess he wanted a Christian to officiate the ceremony.

12-19-08, 10:33 AM	#8
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I am pretty sure BO publicly announced his faith. He is for traditional marriage, but I think he was against prop 8 which is why people are in a rage over this....

12-19-08, 10:58 AM	#12
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Definitely they are using it for their agenda. Gays do not marry or want to marry to have a family as nature dictates, they cannot unless they adopt. So it is just a slick way for them to manipulate the system and rape the tax payer for benefits. It will burden companies and the social security system further. The reality is that we are allowing sexual based behavior to hijack traditional family structures for money and benefits. What's next the beastiality freaks will have the same argument and the ACLU will no doubt support them as well.