I think I smell a Soviet Union in the oven...

YukonJack_AK · 12-16-08, 06:34 PM

Checking my email and had to back up to read this article that caught my eye...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/...ssian_warships

...Now I know I thought the Bush administration was dumb when my unit spent the better part of 2 years in the desert but this takes the cake! "Pentagon with a ho-hum attitude"??? Talks with Venezuaela??? Russian Tu-160s flying around the Carribbean and warships using the Canal?!?!

What's next - A Kirov Class docking at Norfolk?

Skybird · 12-16-08, 07:57 PM

Sticking your US-nose deep into Russia's Kaukasian backyard, what do you complain about Russia's nose in your own backyard then? But be at rest, there is no real danger. Your defense budget is around 18 times as high than theirs.

(from: Berlin Tagespiegel)

Frame57 · 12-16-08, 08:02 PM

Naw, let em try...They would taste the sting of death by just one Virginia class SSN.

Task Force · 12-16-08, 08:07 PM

Whats that smell..... Oah crap I burned the Soviet Union. Honey, get the fire extenguisher, I hope you like your Soviet Union extra crispy. (sorry I had to do it.)

YukonJack_AK · 12-16-08, 08:09 PM

Sorry but I'm a child of the Cold War US Military... Dad was an Eagle driver for 27 years and I remember a time when a Bear flew near England/Iceland and a pair of birds took off to show him his way home!

Let alone hanging out in the Carribbean...

SandyCaesar · 12-16-08, 08:29 PM

Really can't blame the Russians, it's technically international waters anyway. Besides, if the US reacted negatively it would be accused of a whole slew of things, top of which Russia can claim "but we weren't doing anything wrong".

So shrugging and saying "okay, so what?" is probably the right response. Of course, I notice Ms. Rice isn't saying anything about the 688/21/774-class that might or might not be following that pretty, pretty DDG. :hmm:

AVGWarhawk · 12-16-08, 08:50 PM

The Russians can bob around where they like. It gives us an opportunity to have exercises with our hunter/killer and fast attack subs.

Just the Russian thumbing a nose at us. Nothing more. Perhaps it is payback for the wiretapping we were doing off their shores many years ago. No wait, were still doing that.

August · 12-16-08, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Russians can bob around where they like. It gives us an opportunity to have exercises with our hunter/killer and fast attack subs.

Not to mention learning a lot about how they operate and what their capabilities are. Like a football team that practices on an opponents home field, their every move is going to be observed, analyzed, quantified and categorized.

Frame57 · 12-16-08, 09:35 PM

"Know thy enemy...."

SandyCaesar · 12-16-08, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Russians can bob around where they like. It gives us an opportunity to have exercises with our hunter/killer and fast attack subs.

Not to mention learning a lot about how they operate and what their capabilities are. Like a football team that practices on an opponents home field, their every move is going to be observed, analyzed, quantified and categorized.

Well, maybe not in this case. As the Russians would also know this, the exercises in the Carib are probably dumbed-down extensively so US SSNs wouldn't learn quite so much.

Which means not that much gets learned by the units in the exercise, but hey. That's the price you pay for making a political statement.

Frame57 · 12-16-08, 09:46 PM

They are probably just observing. We have certainly made sound profiles on their ships long ago.

August · 12-16-08, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SandyCaesar

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Russians can bob around where they like. It gives us an opportunity to have exercises with our hunter/killer and fast attack subs.

Not to mention learning a lot about how they operate and what their capabilities are. Like a football team that practices on an opponents home field, their every move is going to be observed, analyzed, quantified and categorized.

Well, maybe not in this case. As the Russians would also know this, the exercises in the Carib are probably dumbed-down extensively so US SSNs wouldn't learn quite so much.

Which means not that much gets learned by the units in the exercise, but hey. That's the price you pay for making a political statement.

Yeah we do the same thing but there are still things to be learned.

bookworm_020 · 12-16-08, 09:53 PM

Well they way that the oil prices are going and the Russian stock exchange, they may be do some more drills tied up to the docks in the future!

AVGWarhawk · 12-17-08, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

They are probably just observing. We have certainly made sound profiles on their ships long ago.

Now is the time to test the electronics and see how good they are

Anyway, the Pentagon does not care. According to the news, they have a ho-hum attitude with the whole thing. Russia is just flexing and having some fun.

AVGWarhawk · 12-17-08, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Well they way that the oil prices are going and the Russian stock exchange, they may be do some more drills tied up to the docks in the future!

Judging by the maintenance on their vessels, this might be a good idea.

12-16-08, 06:34 PM	#1
YukonJack_AK Soundman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Frozen North Posts: 146 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	I think I smell a Soviet Union in the oven... Checking my email and had to back up to read this article that caught my eye... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/...ssian_warships ...Now I know I thought the Bush administration was dumb when my unit spent the better part of 2 years in the desert but this takes the cake! "Pentagon with a ho-hum attitude"??? Talks with Venezuaela??? Russian Tu-160s flying around the Carribbean and warships using the Canal?!?! What's next - A Kirov Class docking at Norfolk? __________________ GWX3.0 - SH3Commander - Thomsen's Sounds Pack - Manos Env Pro - Hitman's Optics - RB's UBoat Flags - Waterstream & Exhaust CombiMOD - Torpedo Damage Final - DiD AMD Phenom II x6, 16GB DDR3, 2x NVidia GTX460 1GB, WIN7 64bit

12-16-08, 07:57 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sticking your US-nose deep into Russia's Kaukasian backyard, what do you complain about Russia's nose in your own backyard then? But be at rest, there is no real danger. Your defense budget is around 18 times as high than theirs. (from: Berlin Tagespiegel) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 12-16-08 at 07:59 PM.

12-16-08, 08:07 PM	#4
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Whats that smell..... Oah crap I burned the Soviet Union. Honey, get the fire extenguisher, I hope you like your Soviet Union extra crispy. (sorry I had to do it.) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

12-16-08, 08:09 PM	#5
YukonJack_AK Soundman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Frozen North Posts: 146 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Sorry but I'm a child of the Cold War US Military... Dad was an Eagle driver for 27 years and I remember a time when a Bear flew near England/Iceland and a pair of birds took off to show him his way home! Let alone hanging out in the Carribbean... __________________ GWX3.0 - SH3Commander - Thomsen's Sounds Pack - Manos Env Pro - Hitman's Optics - RB's UBoat Flags - Waterstream & Exhaust CombiMOD - Torpedo Damage Final - DiD AMD Phenom II x6, 16GB DDR3, 2x NVidia GTX460 1GB, WIN7 64bit Last edited by YukonJack_AK; 12-16-08 at 08:10 PM.

12-16-08, 08:29 PM	#6
SandyCaesar Chief Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: HMS Thanatus Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Really can't blame the Russians, it's technically international waters anyway. Besides, if the US reacted negatively it would be accused of a whole slew of things, top of which Russia can claim "but we weren't doing anything wrong". So shrugging and saying "okay, so what?" is probably the right response. Of course, I notice Ms. Rice isn't saying anything about the 688/21/774-class that might or might not be following that pretty, pretty DDG. :hmm: __________________ Vanvikan, Feb. 2009: ordinary human, KIA, night 4 HMS Thanatus, May 2009: ??? human, KIA, night 7

12-16-08, 08:02 PM	#3
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Naw, let em try...They would taste the sting of death by just one Virginia class SSN.

12-16-08, 08:50 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The Russians can bob around where they like. It gives us an opportunity to have exercises with our hunter/killer and fast attack subs. Just the Russian thumbing a nose at us. Nothing more. Perhaps it is payback for the wiretapping we were doing off their shores many years ago. No wait, were still doing that. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-16-08, 09:35 PM	#9
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	"Know thy enemy...."

12-16-08, 09:46 PM	#11
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	They are probably just observing. We have certainly made sound profiles on their ships long ago.

12-16-08, 09:53 PM	#13
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well they way that the oil prices are going and the Russian stock exchange, they may be do some more drills tied up to the docks in the future! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"