Extra-long survival conception, or simple 8 Ns.

Task Force thread “How far into your career are you”?http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=139739
She-Wolf thread “What am I doing wrong”
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=144851&page=2
inspired me to invent new U-Boot Waffe conception for kalois interested in extra long survival.

1. Never attack single ships or convoys after spring 1941 in misty rainy weather (view lower then 400 m) in daytime and nighttime too.
2. Never try to explore enemy harbors except deep harbors of volcanic islands, Curacao and Bridgetown for example.
3. Never fight with enemy aircrafts, Alarmtauchens only.
4. Never continue you way on the surface in bad view weather (view less than 2000 meters) if enemy radar was detected. If this is an aircraft you’ll fail to submerge unharmed.
5. Never attack convoys on calm seas at daytime (wind speed less then 4 m/s). Otherwise your periscope will be definitely detected. Wait for the dusk to come.
6. Never fight with more then one destroyer.
7. Never surface after first convoy attack. Fire all your torpedoes if possible, then go deeper then 100, turn off e-maschinen, no torps uploads. Stay deep and motionless no less then two hours.
8. Never come to artillery duels, you are not battleship commander!

Criticism and additions are welcomed.

[Task Force]

Amasingly, I have survived a surface battle with a armed tralwer.

[xxx]

Done that twice but have lost one crew member every time...

[Sledgehammer427]

Never put posts in tiny white letters....

[IanC]

[Red Heat]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

Never put posts in tiny white letters....

its quite dificult to read anything...sorry!

[ppk]

Why the first one? I don't see why one wouldn't attack lone merchants whatever the weather. Use the S-Gerat for ranging when you're in a storm, and sink them.. Just make sure there isn't anyone else around to hear you :P ...and please post your text bigger next time?

[Sandman_28054]

Originally Posted by Task Force

Amasingly, I have survived a surface battle with a armed tralwer.

I've really never had any bad battles with Armed Trawlers or Corvetts provided I have at least 2000 meters between me and them.

Sometimes I can separate the Corvetts from the convoy, trail them off about 6-7000 meters from the convoy, surface and duke it out with my DG. I have sank 8 this way. About 10-15 rnds of HE and 5-10 rnds of AP will do the trick.

Never run the surface in any type of weather off the East coast of the U.S.

Those PBY's know right where you are.

[Sledgehammer427]

yup yup.

Alex, don't be alarmed, you have a good list of "never-do's"
and, as a matter of fact, i only have one, and its a quote nonetheless

Just because you're paranoid...doesn't mean the other b******s not out to get ya.

paranoid is the name of the game in SHIII+GWX 2.1 (can't wait for gold!)

[meduza]

Originally Posted by Alex Schtolz

1. Never attack single ships or convoys after spring 1941 in misty rainy weather (view lower then 400 m) in daytime and nighttime too.

You can easily attack single ships in low visibility, as long as you stay submerged and use hydrophones to approach, and periscope once the target is in visual range (about 700m). Attacking a convoy in such a conditions is a bad idea.

Originally Posted by Alex Schtolz

5. Never attack convoys on calm seas at daytime (wind speed less then 4 m/s). Otherwise your periscope will be definitely detected. Wait for the dusk to come.

I disagree. Keep your periscope very low and exposed for a short time and you won't be detected. Going slow helps.

Originally Posted by Alex Schtolz

6. Never fight with more then one destroyer.

:hmm: Not quite sure what you mean. Why would you fight the destroyers? Only reason I can think of is when you can't shake them off, and you're low on air. Your ontly option is to try sinking them. But then the number of DDs is not that important, as you're probably dead anyway. I managed to do it only once or twice.

Originally Posted by Alex Schtolz

7. Never surface after first convoy attack. Fire all your torpedoes if possible, then go deeper then 100, turn off e-maschinen, no torps uploads. Stay deep and motionless no less then two hours.

It's a bit too paranoid . Once the destroyers lose contact with me, I increase the speed to quickly move away, and surface when they are out of visual range.


I agree with other "rules", and would like to add another one:
Don't attack escorted ships in shallow waters.

[Lzs von swe]

1. Never attack single ships or convoys after spring 1941 in misty rainy weather (view lower then 400 m) in daytime and nighttime too.

I think this is more true after spring 1942, when Allied radar comes into play:hmm:
Then you have to change tactics.
Never surface in low visibility (until you get the first radar warner).

[Kipparikalle]

Actually, gun duel even with an convoy's all escorts is possible, and to walk away from alive, thought with damage. Is possible

Even after 1942, actually. It's a bit easier then, when more and more DD's are hunt class with only 1-2 deckguns. Due to the concerning of hunting underwater submarines.


Althought, this requires a quite of exprience with surface engaging.
And distance, and by distance I talk about 10KM

Because, in this time you got time to calculate the distance between you and the ships, and perhaps deliver some damaging hits on the closest one.

But this requires patience, and the balls to not dive after getting couple of hits


I recommend practising on lone DD's before launching an surface attack on a convoy

[Sailor Steve]

I'd love to see you try that in real life. Or at least GWX.:rotfl:

[meduza]

I actually engaged a DD in gun duel, in GWX. I just installed Realistic Torpedo damage mod and wanted to see how it works, so I set up a Single mission and let my boat and DD exchange fire.
You can imagine my surprise when DD sank.

[Sledgehammer427]

6. Never fight with more then one destroyer.

to me...
thats like telling an infant not to crap itself....