About The Deck Gun

banjo · 11-02-08, 01:08 PM

Okay, so maybe the deck gun in RFB loads slower than some of us like, and maybe it's not as powerful as we think it should be--but Wow! What a sound! When that gun fires it is just awesome! And the explosion when it hits is fantastic. In all my years of playing all these sub games and trying different cannon mods this is by far the best for sound. Looks awesome too.

As far as the rate of fire, I just used someone's cannon mod (Rockin Robbins I think) and now it loads quickly. Not historically accurate maybe but I like it. It's a character flaw I know--my mother used to warn me about it.

Rockin Robbins · 11-02-08, 02:04 PM

Yes. Shame Mr Banjo, shame!!!!

How DARE you have fun with this serious simulation.

Ivan Putski · 11-02-08, 02:43 PM

The loading time is way too slow, a gun crew could load it much faster than the sim allows. The gun in the new RFB is`nt stabalized, that`s what takes time, coming on target, and actually doing damage to it. Puts

simsurfer · 11-02-08, 07:20 PM

Where can I d/l that mod?

LukeFF · 11-02-08, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan Putski

The loading time is way too slow, a gun crew could load it much faster than the sim allows.

Do a search of threads here and in the SH3 mods forum to see why your argument, while technically correct, is ultimately flawed.

LukeFF · 11-02-08, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo

Okay, so maybe the deck gun in RFB loads slower than some of us like, and maybe it's not as powerful as we think it should be--but Wow! What a sound! When that gun fires it is just awesome! And the explosion when it hits is fantastic. In all my years of playing all these sub games and trying different cannon mods this is by far the best for sound. Looks awesome too.

Glad you like it. I've been wanting to add differing deck gun sounds based on the caliber of the weapon, and with 1.52 I was finally able to do just this.

banjo · 11-02-08, 11:07 PM

Sim, it's called New Real Deck Gun. I don't have a d/l address but try a search in the mod forum. Webster also has a deck gun mod (search for his mods) but I haven't tried it, but I do use his torpedo mods. I think the Real Deck Gun mod was by Rockin Robbin. If all else fails pm him.

banjo · 11-02-08, 11:09 PM

Yeah, it's so great I look forward to surfacing and touching that baby off. I'm disappointed now when the merchie has guns and I can't surface to finish him off.

Fish40 · 11-03-08, 01:59 PM

I haven't had the opportunity to try the DG yet, but in a "simulated" practice exorcise I fired the AA guns. I was surprised to see the shell cases ejecting.

I don't remember ever seeing that, unless my eyes were going:hmm: It reminds me of a similar mod developed for SH2

Man o man, how long ago was that?

banjo · 11-03-08, 03:35 PM

And now, having said all that, my deck gun won't work. It is canted down toward the deck and won't budge and won't load. I'm in my second patrol now with it that way so docking didn't fix it. I even unloaded the gun mod I was using even tho it was working perfectly. Nada. I don't have a clue.

DeepIron · 11-03-08, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo

And now, having said all that, my deck gun won't work. It is canted down toward the deck and won't budge and won't load. I'm in my second patrol now with it that way so docking didn't fix it. I even unloaded the gun mod I was using even tho it was working perfectly. Nada. I don't have a clue.

Well, ok... I'll spill the beans... I contacted the ship yard after your last patrol and had your deck gun pointed down at your deck and welded in place. We also jammed 75 rolls of wet butt wipe down the barrel too. That way, you don't have to worry 'bout using it, as ineffective as it is...

Actually, I see you reported the problem over in the RFB forums. I'm sure a solution to the problem will be found.

Cheers!

vanjast · 11-03-08, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan Putski

The loading time is way too slow, a gun crew could load it much faster than the sim allows. The gun in the new RFB is`nt stabalized, that`s what takes time, coming on target, and actually doing damage to it. Puts

Ivan really puts (no pun allowed

) it in a nutshell.
But I'm not worried about this as I change it to ~20 second anyway.

Wilcke · 11-03-08, 05:33 PM

What these things have deck guns? Your kidding right? I just thought those things were there for hanging laundry during those long boring surface transits. Yikes I have to pay more attention at the training sessions.

Happy Hunting!

Frederf · 11-03-08, 06:17 PM

The explanation for the deck gun loading times being the way they are in RFB is that in real life you would fire faster at first but as the local ammo locker was depleted the rate would drop drastically as shells were handed one by one out of the interior of the submarine to be used.

The game cannot handle this complex rate of fire equation and only gives a single number so the RFB creator made it a number between the fast "ammo locker full" value and the slow "ammo locker empty" value.

Also does it reduce underwater drag if you have no deck gun at all? I would like to gain an extra knot or so.

banjo · 11-03-08, 06:18 PM

I exited the game and re-entered and all was well.

11-02-08, 01:08 PM	#1
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	About The Deck Gun Okay, so maybe the deck gun in RFB loads slower than some of us like, and maybe it's not as powerful as we think it should be--but Wow! What a sound! When that gun fires it is just awesome! And the explosion when it hits is fantastic. In all my years of playing all these sub games and trying different cannon mods this is by far the best for sound. Looks awesome too. As far as the rate of fire, I just used someone's cannon mod (Rockin Robbins I think) and now it loads quickly. Not historically accurate maybe but I like it. It's a character flaw I know--my mother used to warn me about it.

11-02-08, 02:04 PM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Yes. Shame Mr Banjo, shame!!!! How DARE you have fun with this serious simulation. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

11-02-08, 02:43 PM	#3
Ivan Putski Captain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Memphis, Tn. U.S.A. Posts: 548 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	The loading time is way too slow, a gun crew could load it much faster than the sim allows. The gun in the new RFB is`nt stabalized, that`s what takes time, coming on target, and actually doing damage to it. Puts __________________ " Is He?..........Yeah..........Nothing Moving, But His Watch."

11-02-08, 07:20 PM	#4
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Where can I d/l that mod? __________________

11-03-08, 05:33 PM	#13
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	What these things have deck guns? Your kidding right? I just thought those things were there for hanging laundry during those long boring surface transits. Yikes I have to pay more attention at the training sessions. Happy Hunting! __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

11-02-08, 11:07 PM	#7
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Sim, it's called New Real Deck Gun. I don't have a d/l address but try a search in the mod forum. Webster also has a deck gun mod (search for his mods) but I haven't tried it, but I do use his torpedo mods. I think the Real Deck Gun mod was by Rockin Robbin. If all else fails pm him.

11-02-08, 11:09 PM	#8
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it's so great I look forward to surfacing and touching that baby off. I'm disappointed now when the merchie has guns and I can't surface to finish him off.

11-03-08, 01:59 PM	#9
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I haven't had the opportunity to try the DG yet, but in a "simulated" practice exorcise I fired the AA guns. I was surprised to see the shell cases ejecting. I don't remember ever seeing that, unless my eyes were going:hmm: It reminds me of a similar mod developed for SH2 Man o man, how long ago was that?

11-03-08, 03:35 PM	#10
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	And now, having said all that, my deck gun won't work. It is canted down toward the deck and won't budge and won't load. I'm in my second patrol now with it that way so docking didn't fix it. I even unloaded the gun mod I was using even tho it was working perfectly. Nada. I don't have a clue.

11-03-08, 06:17 PM	#14
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	The explanation for the deck gun loading times being the way they are in RFB is that in real life you would fire faster at first but as the local ammo locker was depleted the rate would drop drastically as shells were handed one by one out of the interior of the submarine to be used. The game cannot handle this complex rate of fire equation and only gives a single number so the RFB creator made it a number between the fast "ammo locker full" value and the slow "ammo locker empty" value. Also does it reduce underwater drag if you have no deck gun at all? I would like to gain an extra knot or so.

11-03-08, 06:18 PM	#15
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I exited the game and re-entered and all was well.