Corrupted Savegame - Any advice?

Lexandro · 10-05-08, 03:07 AM

Well I cant get in to Sh4 to well atm, since nearly every career I make ends up corrupted. Ive got as far as summer '43 and thats about it. I have been taking the utmost caution in saving, using multiple files, keeping backups in the captains room, etc etc. but gauranteed I get a corrupted game.

I have had the game less than a month and its starting to wear thin on the restarts, in total I've started 8 careers, and it would be nice to actually be able to play one without corruption. I keep getting strange occurances in the game that usually points towards the game being busted. Things like when I load a game at sea I hear the WO call "torpedo in the water" but there are no fish running. Or I hear the message "passing thermal layer" every 30 seconds, even on the surface

.Ive got one save game in the captains room thats gauranteed to make any and all saves at sea with it corrupted, regardless of what I try.

Ive get it with un-modded games, and modded alike. There is no reason to it, except that its usually after spring '42 when it happens. I know my rig to be in perfect working order, and the system is bang up to date with everything software related. Its not a cutting edge rig but it is very easily capable of running SH4 maxed out.

Does anyone know what might be causing it and what can be done about this? Is there known conflicting software with the game? Are there any tools to backup or recover save files? Is there any tweaks I can make to the game to help? Do any mods have a fix for this?

Im at my wits end almost, and I need some advice.

Seminole · 10-05-08, 07:24 AM

I just finished up a post that described exactly what you are experiencing. Sometime in '43, it looks to me as if the save game file grows to such immense proportions that it becomes corrupted beyond salvation. Unsalvagable to me at any rate. When I reached November 1943 mine were running to 25 Mb size after only a day or 2 out of home port.

I tried lots of remedies without sucess. Things just got screwier and screwier.(i.e.....crazily absurd, eccentric, or unusual )

The one remedy that worked for me was to simply let go of the career and start a new one in 1943.

A bitter pill to swallow I know but there it is.

Good luck!

SteamWake · 10-05-08, 08:08 AM

Im curious Lex how many patrols had you 'finished' ?

banjo · 10-05-08, 11:15 AM

I don't know why it happens either, but as I have said in other posts, to protect yourself always keep your last "Auto_on_Leaving_Port" save. That way, if your own saves get corrupted you can always load the auto save and re-start your career from that point. You have to repeat the last patrol but you don't lose your whole career.

Anachronous · 10-05-08, 12:16 PM

I keep a whole bunch of numbered saves. So I can go back to various stages if need be. Usually I save after sinking or evading.

Lexandro · 10-05-08, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Im curious Lex how many patrols had you 'finished' ?

Countless tbh. I cant get about 5 or 6 out of the way before late '42, more if I dont sail from Pearl. In total since I got the game I've fully finished about 50+ patrols and earned well over 100k in tonnage in a couple of them. I'll admit im not using 100% realism as I am still getting a feel for command, and some of the options are a bit of a pain in the bum (CO2 limit) so I dont have them all on.

I have to say though if it wasnt for the corruption I would already have finished at least 3 careers already. And starting from '43 isnt really an option for me, I want to play through and earn a top class crew as it should be done.

kiwi_2005 · 10-06-08, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Well I cant get in to Sh4 to well atm, since nearly every career I make ends up corrupted. Ive got as far as summer '43 and thats about it. I have been taking the utmost caution in saving, using multiple files, keeping backups in the captains room, etc etc. but gauranteed I get a corrupted game.

I have had the game less than a month and its starting to wear thin on the restarts, in total I've started 8 careers, and it would be nice to actually be able to play one without corruption. I keep getting strange occurances in the game that usually points towards the game being busted. Things like when I load a game at sea I hear the WO call "torpedo in the water" but there are no fish running. Or I hear the message "passing thermal layer" every 30 seconds, even on the surface

.Ive got one save game in the captains room thats gauranteed to make any and all saves at sea with it corrupted, regardless of what I try.

Ive get it with un-modded games, and modded alike. There is no reason to it, except that its usually after spring '42 when it happens. I know my rig to be in perfect working order, and the system is bang up to date with everything software related. Its not a cutting edge rig but it is very easily capable of running SH4 maxed out.

Does anyone know what might be causing it and what can be done about this? Is there known conflicting software with the game? Are there any tools to backup or recover save files? Is there any tweaks I can make to the game to help? Do any mods have a fix for this?

Im at my wits end almost, and I need some advice.

What you mention i haven't experience and ive had SH4 since it came out. Ive never had a currupted save either. Your HDD could be currupting the saves. :hmm: Are you running stock or modded.

Defiance · 10-06-08, 05:55 AM

As said, Keep the auto saved files

And save the game on the map view

Ohh and after using time compression give it a while before saving, And once saved then continue the game for a minute

Since my last fubar saved-game load i went to auto saved game in base and redid mission so to speak, After this i saved games on map view and allowed a bit of time after a save before quitting, So far so good (no doubt no i've typed this in i'll have a save fubar lol)

Seminole · 10-06-08, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo

I don't know why it happens either, but as I have said in other posts, to protect yourself always keep your last "Auto_on_Leaving_Port" save. That way, if your own saves get corrupted you can always load the auto save and re-start your career from that point. You have to repeat the last patrol but you don't lose your whole career.

That doesn't always work. I always save those too, but once I got to late 1943 I left base with a saved game file of 300-400 kbs. Within one or two ingame days the first saved game file grew to a whopping 25 MB and was corrupted beyond repair.

Reloaded the Auto Leaving Port...and even the auto entering port files but wham-o ,same thing... over and over... it was hopeless.

Rockin Robbins · 10-06-08, 08:35 AM

Sorry, but I have to dome down on Kiwi's side. I've done hundreds of saves in all kind of conditions, including while submerged and under attack, with dozens of different mod configurations and never had a corrupted save. I generally have a save1 and save2 alternating places for backup, plus the autosaves. I've never had to use one in 18 months of playing.

So I'm not too helpful, but it is information!

SteamWake · 10-06-08, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Sorry, but I have to dome down on Kiwi's side. I've done hundreds of saves in all kind of conditions, including while submerged and under attack, with dozens of different mod configurations and never had a corrupted save. I generally have a save1 and save2 alternating places for backup, plus the autosaves. I've never had to use one in 18 months of playing.

So I'm not too helpful, but it is information!

Ill have to agree with RR here

All kinds of saves in all kinds of postions. I too used a numbered save game system to be safe but have never had to really 'fall back' for anything other a screw up.

Then again I rarely get past a dozen or so patrols before I either retire or get 'killed'.

doulos05 · 10-06-08, 09:05 AM

I know you want to play all the way though, but perhaps you should try starting one in 1943 for test purposes. It is possible that something in your game install is corrupted and the corruption starts in or around 1943. Failing that, have you tried reinstalling per the reinstall thread here?

10-06-08, 01:10 PM

One question: Are you using the "save replay" option? I seem to remember someone here mention that when using that, it's also saving a video of what's going on, which lead to a HUGE saved file.

BTW, my save structure looks something like this:

autosave on "arrival/leaving" base, etc.

Mission01-01 (for mission 01, save #1)
Mission01-02 (mission 01, save #2), etc.

Saves are usually once every 2 game days (night/day cycle) and if sonar or radar contacts are made, I'll do one right there, always on the map view.

While getting from base to the patrol point, I might just over-write one of those, but I make it a point never to over-write a save file more than 3 times. I'll simply make a new save file and continue on from there.

Don't delete any of the old "mission" saves until AFTER you've returned to base, and have a new mission started.

Lexandro · 10-06-08, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

What you mention i haven't experience and ive had SH4 since it came out. Ive never had a currupted save either. Your HDD could be currupting the saves. :hmm: Are you running stock or modded.

Its not the hardware, the comps in perfect condition. The HDD the game is on is practically brand new (2 months old) and its a Seagate 320gb SATA 300 with perpendicular technology. Pretty much one of the best HDD's you can get. Plus I have re-installed the game 3 times now to be sure, and used other HDD's ( I got 3 hard drives btw).

The corruption happens with stock or modded, it makes no difference. One game got to late '43 before issues on stock. My last one only got to Nov '42 before it went wonky. THe only thing I can think of is that I do extra long patrol missions. Since I have unlimited fuel option on I can sail about the ocean for ages. I usually do about 3 objectives before returning to port. And I *did* used to save the game before every attack run so that I could get a good attack without worrying about to many duds or missed shots. Now Im saving well away from every vessel and only in daylight. I never ever use the replay option, I dont do anything other than play and save when I need to.

As I said though all my games are backed up in port, I use multiple save files while at sea and almost never over write them. I am using uboat 1.5, but also had the corruption with 1.4 before upgrading the game to uboat. There really seems to be no cause I can pin down specifically.

Sorry if you have all heard this before but its such a nasty bug, that I cant beleive Ubi left it alone and hasnt fixed it. Savegames and menu systems in games should be bullet proof imo.

*EDIT* Oh forgot to mention, Im running the game in Vista Premium 32bit. Its a "clean" Vista install, basically every bit of junk in it is disabled and only essential services are running. When I play I make sure there are no background tasks running other than my firewall to ensure no background interference.

10-06-08, 02:05 PM

This may be the cause of the problem:

http://www.qctimes.com/blogs/wp-cont...s/gremlins.jpg

Can't think of anything else, sorry.

10-05-08, 12:16 PM	#5
Anachronous Medic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tasmania Posts: 167 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I keep a whole bunch of numbered saves. So I can go back to various stages if need be. Usually I save after sinking or evading. __________________ Use of undefined constants causes assumptions!

10-06-08, 05:55 AM	#8
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	As said, Keep the auto saved files And save the game on the map view Ohh and after using time compression give it a while before saving, And once saved then continue the game for a minute Since my last fubar saved-game load i went to auto saved game in base and redid mission so to speak, After this i saved games on map view and allowed a bit of time after a save before quitting, So far so good (no doubt no i've typed this in i'll have a save fubar lol) __________________ Have Fun Bye Def

10-06-08, 08:35 AM	#10
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Sorry, but I have to dome down on Kiwi's side. I've done hundreds of saves in all kind of conditions, including while submerged and under attack, with dozens of different mod configurations and never had a corrupted save. I generally have a save1 and save2 alternating places for backup, plus the autosaves. I've never had to use one in 18 months of playing. So I'm not too helpful, but it is information! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-06-08, 09:05 AM	#12
doulos05 Planesman Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 195 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I know you want to play all the way though, but perhaps you should try starting one in 1943 for test purposes. It is possible that something in your game install is corrupted and the corruption starts in or around 1943. Failing that, have you tried reinstalling per the reinstall thread here? __________________ *While troubleshooting a printer at work Me: "Do you want me to run the copies through again?" Boss: "Hold on, let me go get the alcohol first. Me:

10-05-08, 03:07 AM	#1
Lexandro Navy Dude Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: REDACTED Posts: 172 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Corrupted Savegame - Any advice? Well I cant get in to Sh4 to well atm, since nearly every career I make ends up corrupted. Ive got as far as summer '43 and thats about it. I have been taking the utmost caution in saving, using multiple files, keeping backups in the captains room, etc etc. but gauranteed I get a corrupted game. I have had the game less than a month and its starting to wear thin on the restarts, in total I've started 8 careers, and it would be nice to actually be able to play one without corruption. I keep getting strange occurances in the game that usually points towards the game being busted. Things like when I load a game at sea I hear the WO call "torpedo in the water" but there are no fish running. Or I hear the message "passing thermal layer" every 30 seconds, even on the surface .Ive got one save game in the captains room thats gauranteed to make any and all saves at sea with it corrupted, regardless of what I try. Ive get it with un-modded games, and modded alike. There is no reason to it, except that its usually after spring '42 when it happens. I know my rig to be in perfect working order, and the system is bang up to date with everything software related. Its not a cutting edge rig but it is very easily capable of running SH4 maxed out. Does anyone know what might be causing it and what can be done about this? Is there known conflicting software with the game? Are there any tools to backup or recover save files? Is there any tweaks I can make to the game to help? Do any mods have a fix for this? Im at my wits end almost, and I need some advice.

10-05-08, 07:24 AM	#2
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I just finished up a post that described exactly what you are experiencing. Sometime in '43, it looks to me as if the save game file grows to such immense proportions that it becomes corrupted beyond salvation. Unsalvagable to me at any rate. When I reached November 1943 mine were running to 25 Mb size after only a day or 2 out of home port. I tried lots of remedies without sucess. Things just got screwier and screwier.(i.e.....crazily absurd, eccentric, or unusual ) The one remedy that worked for me was to simply let go of the career and start a new one in 1943. A bitter pill to swallow I know but there it is. Good luck! __________________

10-05-08, 08:08 AM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Im curious Lex how many patrols had you 'finished' ?

10-05-08, 11:15 AM	#4
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I don't know why it happens either, but as I have said in other posts, to protect yourself always keep your last "Auto_on_Leaving_Port" save. That way, if your own saves get corrupted you can always load the auto save and re-start your career from that point. You have to repeat the last patrol but you don't lose your whole career.

10-06-08, 01:10 PM	#13
Zayphod Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	One question: Are you using the "save replay" option? I seem to remember someone here mention that when using that, it's also saving a video of what's going on, which lead to a HUGE saved file. BTW, my save structure looks something like this: autosave on "arrival/leaving" base, etc. Mission01-01 (for mission 01, save #1) Mission01-02 (mission 01, save #2), etc. Saves are usually once every 2 game days (night/day cycle) and if sonar or radar contacts are made, I'll do one right there, always on the map view. While getting from base to the patrol point, I might just over-write one of those, but I make it a point never to over-write a save file more than 3 times. I'll simply make a new save file and continue on from there. Don't delete any of the old "mission" saves until AFTER you've returned to base, and have a new mission started.

10-06-08, 02:05 PM	#15
Zayphod Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	This may be the cause of the problem: http://www.qctimes.com/blogs/wp-cont...s/gremlins.jpg Can't think of anything else, sorry.