Taking damage before I've even moved!

Paul_IronCoffin · 10-24-08, 03:06 PM

Evening all,

Strange one this. All of a sudden, every time I put to sea I instantly get the message "CE: Sonar Destroyed, Sir!" I'm using SH3Commander and have selected the option to start at sea rather than in my home base.

Any ideas anyone?

cheers
Paul

meduza · 10-24-08, 03:27 PM

I remember having that message while I was playing stock game, later in the war. But the sonar actualy worked, despite that message.

What mods do you have installed? If I'm not mistaken, the GWX fixed that.

Paul_IronCoffin · 10-24-08, 03:29 PM

No mods Meduza. Thanks though - I hadn't actually thought to see if it still worked.

cheers
Paul

Graf Paper · 10-24-08, 03:48 PM

If you're using GWX 2.0 or 2.1, you need to enable the "Late War Sensors" mod. This fixes the stock bug in SH3 that affects radar and sonar in u-boats from 1943-1945.

Using GWX 2.1 as an exmaple:
In your enabled mods list, it goes in first....

Late War Sensors
Merged Campaigns
AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
Community Units
etc...

Hope this helps. I've noticed several others having this same issue.

RTFM.

Paul_IronCoffin · 10-24-08, 03:52 PM

Thanks. I'm not using GWX yet, but it does happen to be 1943 for me..

cheers
Paul

melnibonian · 10-25-08, 03:38 AM

Get GWX mate. You will then play the game the way it should have been from the begining

irish1958 · 10-25-08, 07:57 AM

WTF???

Not playing GWX?????

Shame!!

Hanomag · 10-25-08, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

WTF???

Not playing GWX?????

Shame!!

LMAO :rotfl:

Graf Paper · 10-25-08, 05:12 PM

You think getting your sonar "destroyed" is bad then I have news for you...

You have yet to encounter the "watch crew suicide" bug in stock SH3.

I think it only applies to the IX series boats with a particular tower, but that's from a dim memory of the days when I first started playing the game, so it may affect other types with certain conning towers equipped. (Somebody clarify this, if you please.)

Here's what it is and how it happens...

If your conning tower takes enough damage that it is destroyed, the watch crew will be killed. This is how the suicide begins. The game's AI will automatically move more crew to replace the dead watch...and they in turn get killed by simply going up to the destroyed bridge. So the AI moves more crew to replace those dead crewmen...over and over until all your crew is dead.

There's only two ways to avoid this catastrophic bug. You can either avoid equipping your u-boat with the affected conning tower ( turm ), or you can install one of the super-mods, like GWX, NYGM, WAC, etc. Although, there may once have been a simple fix released as a mod for stock SH3 that you might still find for download.

Truth is that stock SH3, even patched to 1.4b, still has a great many bugs and plays more like an arcade game instead of a simulation.

It cannot be stressed enough just how revolutionary GWX has been to SH3. I swear Ubisoft should hire the Grey Wolves to be part of the SH5 dev team! Once I tried GWX, I never went back to playing stock SH3.

If you have an older computer, GWX 1.03 and NYGM should run okay. I had very little trouble with GWX 1.03 running on a 2.4 Ghz Athlon with 256MB DDR266 RAM and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB video card. There were some stutters and lags, but mostly because my vid card was a real bottleneck. Using Lite Harbor Traffic and turning the video settings down a bit in the SH3 Options menu helped to keep the lags to a minimum, usually when there were large explosions or other huge particle effects.

Kapt Z · 10-26-08, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graf Paper

If you have an older computer, GWX 1.03 and NYGM should run okay. I had very little trouble with GWX 1.03 running on a 2.4 Ghz Athlon with 256MB DDR266 RAM and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB video card. There were some stutters and lags, but mostly because my vid card was a real bottleneck. Using Lite Harbor Traffic and turning the video settings down a bit in the SH3 Options menu helped to keep the lags to a minimum, usually when there were large explosions or other huge particle effects.

Where can I find older versions on GWX to download??? I have a older computer and have been told that it could run older GWX versions, but I can only seem to find the newest verision?

Paul_IronCoffin · 10-26-08, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

WTF???

Not playing GWX?????

Shame!!

I know, I know... what can I say?! I am new here!

Promise I'll go straight to GWX, do not pass go, do not collect £200..

Graf Paper · 10-26-08, 07:42 PM

or you can go on to NYGM, WAC, LSHIII, etc..

All depends on what you like. Although, NYGM is currently the only super-mod to have a playable XXIII that is very nicely done and WAC focuses on the concept of "u-boat heroes" by emphasizing the tonnage war.

I recommend you try them all!

10-24-08, 03:06 PM	#1
Paul_IronCoffin Gunner Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. James, Barbados Posts: 99 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Taking damage before I've even moved! Evening all, Strange one this. All of a sudden, every time I put to sea I instantly get the message "CE: Sonar Destroyed, Sir!" I'm using SH3Commander and have selected the option to start at sea rather than in my home base. Any ideas anyone? cheers Paul

10-24-08, 03:27 PM	#2
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I remember having that message while I was playing stock game, later in the war. But the sonar actualy worked, despite that message. What mods do you have installed? If I'm not mistaken, the GWX fixed that. __________________

10-24-08, 03:48 PM	#4
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	If you're using GWX 2.0 or 2.1, you need to enable the "Late War Sensors" mod. This fixes the stock bug in SH3 that affects radar and sonar in u-boats from 1943-1945. Using GWX 2.1 as an exmaple: In your enabled mods list, it goes in first.... Late War Sensors Merged Campaigns AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix Community Units etc... Hope this helps. I've noticed several others having this same issue. RTFM. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-25-08, 03:38 AM	#6
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Get GWX mate. You will then play the game the way it should have been from the begining __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

10-25-08, 07:57 AM	#7
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	WTF??? Not playing GWX????? Shame!! __________________ Irish1958

10-24-08, 03:29 PM	#3
Paul_IronCoffin Gunner Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. James, Barbados Posts: 99 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	No mods Meduza. Thanks though - I hadn't actually thought to see if it still worked. cheers Paul

10-24-08, 03:52 PM	#5
Paul_IronCoffin Gunner Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. James, Barbados Posts: 99 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I'm not using GWX yet, but it does happen to be 1943 for me.. cheers Paul

10-25-08, 05:12 PM	#9
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	You think getting your sonar "destroyed" is bad then I have news for you... You have yet to encounter the "watch crew suicide" bug in stock SH3. I think it only applies to the IX series boats with a particular tower, but that's from a dim memory of the days when I first started playing the game, so it may affect other types with certain conning towers equipped. (Somebody clarify this, if you please.) Here's what it is and how it happens... If your conning tower takes enough damage that it is destroyed, the watch crew will be killed. This is how the suicide begins. The game's AI will automatically move more crew to replace the dead watch...and they in turn get killed by simply going up to the destroyed bridge. So the AI moves more crew to replace those dead crewmen...over and over until all your crew is dead. There's only two ways to avoid this catastrophic bug. You can either avoid equipping your u-boat with the affected conning tower ( turm ), or you can install one of the super-mods, like GWX, NYGM, WAC, etc. Although, there may once have been a simple fix released as a mod for stock SH3 that you might still find for download. Truth is that stock SH3, even patched to 1.4b, still has a great many bugs and plays more like an arcade game instead of a simulation. It cannot be stressed enough just how revolutionary GWX has been to SH3. I swear Ubisoft should hire the Grey Wolves to be part of the SH5 dev team! Once I tried GWX, I never went back to playing stock SH3. If you have an older computer, GWX 1.03 and NYGM should run okay. I had very little trouble with GWX 1.03 running on a 2.4 Ghz Athlon with 256MB DDR266 RAM and an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 128MB video card. There were some stutters and lags, but mostly because my vid card was a real bottleneck. Using Lite Harbor Traffic and turning the video settings down a bit in the SH3 Options menu helped to keep the lags to a minimum, usually when there were large explosions or other huge particle effects. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-26-08, 07:42 PM	#12
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	or you can go on to NYGM, WAC, LSHIII, etc.. All depends on what you like. Although, NYGM is currently the only super-mod to have a playable XXIII that is very nicely done and WAC focuses on the concept of "u-boat heroes" by emphasizing the tonnage war. I recommend you try them all! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.