Do you like different smoke ?

Adriatico · 10-20-08, 11:22 AM

Just played with editing smoke files, so tuned them to my taste... or lack of taste.

So, do you see them as more realistic...?

Any comments/critics are welcome...

Wilcke · 10-20-08, 12:24 PM

Very well done for a tanker fire!

FIREWALL · 10-20-08, 12:32 PM

Very nice.

Adriatico · 10-20-08, 12:41 PM

Just a small note,... it is not tanker fire.
Files shapes are general fire smoke, just depending on the size of the ship, type of cargo, ...etc.

SH3 visuals do not see different types of smoke textures...

Graf Paper · 10-20-08, 12:46 PM

That looks better to my eye.

I've always thought that tanker fires should be "greasy", blacker and with more weight than regular cargo fires.

Are you just editing the smoke texture or have you also been changing the particle values as well to change the smoke's behavior, such as being affected by wind?

I hope that you will eventually release this as a mod!

Task Force · 10-20-08, 02:03 PM

I think it is veary good, Oil on fire should be thick.

VikingGrandad · 10-20-08, 04:11 PM

Adriatico, your smoke effect looks very promising indeed

There was a smoke mod I used to use a while ago with GWX v1 that was very good - better than stock or GWX at that time. I think it was Sober's Real Smoke Mod. But yours could be even better!

The smoke from fires/explosions in GWX 2's Enhanced Damage Effects moves very nicely, has plenty of height (very important!) and looks excellent from a distance...

(click thumbnail for larger picture)

...but I think it can sometimes look a little too 'chunky' at shorter viewing distances, for example:

Looking at your screenshots, your smoke has a very realistic texture and also plenty of height, but perhaps some more blackness is needed? For comparison, I'd really like to see how your smoke mod looks animated and also close-up!

I think smoke and water (which Thompsen is trying so hard to perfect) are two of the hardest things in SH3 to make closer to reality (which varies so much). You might find the following photos useful in your quest for perfect smoke effects!

Adriatico · 10-20-08, 04:51 PM

It is difficult to find "common" look for a smoke texture, as there is variety of grey and light smokes that should also fake dark oil-smoke...

And I agree that present 2.1 smoke is somewhat "cartoonish" from a close distance...

But if natural feeling is achieved, all these smokes would indulge the player into Atlantic warfare environment...

10-20-08, 05:03 PM

3 things control the smoke.

The TGA file, the partical effect, and the zone.

Create a new zone, assign it to say a small Cargo Ship.
That zone when destroyed calls the new partical effect,
which calls a different tga file.

So it is possible to have different smoke for different type ships.

Graf Paper · 10-20-08, 05:20 PM

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What he said.

You can also make the smoke "stickier" and "heavy" by editing the particle lifetimes and weight.

Lots of possible effects can be done by tinkering with the zones and particles to make the smoke .tga textures look and behave really "real".

How do you think Racerboy did such a fantastic job on the U-boat Exhaust Smoke mod?

Castout · 10-20-08, 06:52 PM

I want it! Give it to us!

10-20-08, 11:22 AM	#1
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Do you like different smoke ? Just played with editing smoke files, so tuned them to my taste... or lack of taste. So, do you see them as more realistic...? Any comments/critics are welcome... __________________ Last edited by Adriatico; 10-20-08 at 01:46 PM.

10-20-08, 12:24 PM	#2
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Very well done for a tanker fire! __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

10-20-08, 12:32 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Very nice. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

10-20-08, 12:41 PM	#4
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Just a small note,... it is not tanker fire. Files shapes are general fire smoke, just depending on the size of the ship, type of cargo, ...etc. SH3 visuals do not see different types of smoke textures... __________________

10-20-08, 12:46 PM	#5
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	That looks better to my eye. I've always thought that tanker fires should be "greasy", blacker and with more weight than regular cargo fires. Are you just editing the smoke texture or have you also been changing the particle values as well to change the smoke's behavior, such as being affected by wind? I hope that you will eventually release this as a mod! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-20-08, 02:03 PM	#6
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think it is veary good, Oil on fire should be thick. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-20-08, 04:11 PM	#7
VikingGrandad Planesman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: AM93 Posts: 188 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Adriatico, your smoke effect looks very promising indeed There was a smoke mod I used to use a while ago with GWX v1 that was very good - better than stock or GWX at that time. I think it was Sober's Real Smoke Mod. But yours could be even better! The smoke from fires/explosions in GWX 2's Enhanced Damage Effects moves very nicely, has plenty of height (very important!) and looks excellent from a distance... (click thumbnail for larger picture) ...but I think it can sometimes look a little too 'chunky' at shorter viewing distances, for example: Looking at your screenshots, your smoke has a very realistic texture and also plenty of height, but perhaps some more blackness is needed? For comparison, I'd really like to see how your smoke mod looks animated and also close-up! I think smoke and water (which Thompsen is trying so hard to perfect) are two of the hardest things in SH3 to make closer to reality (which varies so much). You might find the following photos useful in your quest for perfect smoke effects! __________________

10-20-08, 04:51 PM	#8
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	It is difficult to find "common" look for a smoke texture, as there is variety of grey and light smokes that should also fake dark oil-smoke... And I agree that present 2.1 smoke is somewhat "cartoonish" from a close distance... But if natural feeling is achieved, all these smokes would indulge the player into Atlantic warfare environment... __________________

10-20-08, 05:03 PM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	3 things control the smoke. The TGA file, the partical effect, and the zone. Create a new zone, assign it to say a small Cargo Ship. That zone when destroyed calls the new partical effect, which calls a different tga file. So it is possible to have different smoke for different type ships.

10-20-08, 05:20 PM	#10
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	^ \| What he said. You can also make the smoke "stickier" and "heavy" by editing the particle lifetimes and weight. Lots of possible effects can be done by tinkering with the zones and particles to make the smoke .tga textures look and behave really "real". How do you think Racerboy did such a fantastic job on the U-boat Exhaust Smoke mod? __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

10-20-08, 06:52 PM	#11
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	I want it! Give it to us! __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/