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Old 10-09-08, 10:15 AM   #1
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/chi...ons/index.html

I'm amazed and delighted to see someone with power actually stand up for the little guy for a change. The law enforcement field has become the brown shirts of our ever oppressive government and this is just great. I read the article twice. I have viewed law enforcement as the American brown shirts since the Waco and Ruby Ridge incidents, so this is a nice change of pace.

It's good to see a lawman get excited over something besides his next multimillion dollar weapon system to use on the poor.
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Old 10-09-08, 11:08 AM   #2
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It only prolongs the crisis since these bad debts remain on the bank's books.

Also I'm quite sure there is some procedure to obtain a writ of mandamus, which is an Order from a court that a public official has to do their job.

Also this really isn't the Sheriff's call. The bank rightfully owns the property, and they have a right to control the disposition of their assets when one side of the agreement isn't being held up. The Sheriff is actually ignoring the law.

Take all that with a grain of salt, I'm no expert.
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Old 10-09-08, 11:34 AM   #3
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@TFatseas I see you only skimmed thru the article and really didn't read it.

It was Building Owners who pocketed the TENANTS rent and fell behind on payments to the bank.

The Sherriff showed some balls standing up to the banks and not putting innocent TENANTS out on the street.
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Old 10-09-08, 11:38 AM   #4
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It only prolongs the crisis since these bad debts remain on the bank's books.

Also I'm quite sure there is some procedure to obtain a writ of mandamus, which is an Order from a court that a public official has to do their job.

Also this really isn't the Sheriff's call. The bank rightfully owns the property, and they have a right to control the disposition of their assets when one side of the agreement isn't being held up. The Sheriff is actually ignoring the law.

Take all that with a grain of salt, I'm no expert.
I know, the bank empire will get their way in the end, they always do. My point is that this guy actually grew a pair of balls and stood up to the tide. That is so rare these days. Everyone usually wants to just say "yes masa, right away masa" to cover their precious feeble behind.

The odds are always on the house. I stood up to the US Army, I got a bad conduct discharge. It's not about winning, it's about having some balls. If I was a jew in Germany back in the 1930's, they would have had to shoot me before I got on that train. You'll die later anyway, might as well be a pain.

The can just call their good buddy Bush, he can send his Praetorian Guards, Blackwater USA to go throw those evil good for nothings in the streets. They would like nothing better, of course they are a lot more expensive than the local sherrif.

At the rate things are going, if we let republicans run things much longer we will go back to debtor prisons.

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Old 10-09-08, 12:31 PM   #5
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@TFatseas I see you only skimmed thru the article and really didn't read it.

It was Building Owners who pocketed the TENANTS rent and fell behind on payments to the bank.

The Sherriff showed some balls standing up to the banks and not putting innocent TENANTS out on the street.
Whoops, sorry, I tend to get ahead of myself. I swear though I've seen this article before.
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Old 10-09-08, 12:38 PM   #6
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This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.
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Old 10-09-08, 04:04 PM   #7
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Thats nice to see someone doing the right thing - especially if it is indeed the owners who are failing to pay the rent and not the tenants.

I sure hope 1480 doesnt come in here tho, he won't take too kindly to being compared with one of the worst kinds of nazis..
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Thats nice to see someone doing the right thing - especially if it is indeed the owners who are failing to pay the rent and not the tenants.

I sure hope 1480 doesnt come in here tho, he won't take too kindly to being compared with one of the worst kinds of nazis..
The brown shirts were not the worst kind. They were just the harassing thugs unable and unwilling to think for themselves. The SS were the worst of the worst for obvious reasons.
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Old 10-09-08, 05:46 PM   #9
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I've never met a tenant who paid his rent more than a month in advance so I'd think it's immaterial whether the owner paid the mortgage or not. By the end of the month whatever time the tenants have purchased has expired.
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Old 10-09-08, 06:11 PM   #10
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Thats nice to see someone doing the right thing - especially if it is indeed the owners who are failing to pay the rent and not the tenants.

I sure hope 1480 doesnt come in here tho, he won't take too kindly to being compared with one of the worst kinds of nazis..
The brown shirts were not the worst kind. They were just the harassing thugs unable and unwilling to think for themselves. The SS were the worst of the worst for obvious reasons.
I'm aware of this. Hence i said "one of the worst kinds".
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Old 10-09-08, 10:49 PM   #11
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Knock knock, someone call for me?


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....
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Knock knock, someone call for me?


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....
Do you honestly expect me to believe that?
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Old 10-09-08, 11:23 PM   #13
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Knock knock, someone call for me?


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....
Do you honestly expect me to believe that?

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Old 10-10-08, 12:28 AM   #14
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Knock knock, someone call for me?


Lets see, Tom Dart is an elected politician. A lawyer by trade who was a state senator for a year and a state rep for 5 terms before he ran for sheriff. This is after he ran unsuccessfully for the Treasurer's office.

He is not, repeat not, a sworn peace officer in the state of Illinois. He never went through the 40 hour required course for firearms as established by state law. He did not pass any tests that are required to be certified as a peace officer in Illinois.

So by very definition, he is an elected official and never was a "real law enforcement officer" or ever will be.


As for being compared to a nazi, I've been called worse things . Never been suspended, have earned 60 department awards, and three citizen group awards for my actions. I will always be pro police because that is all I've ever done my entire adult life and am proud of who I am. I just mention this not to puff up my chest, but just to give a little perspective of what I am.

Just remember, as much as you hate us, we still come when you call.....
Do you honestly expect me to believe that?

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

While not defending them, we in So Cal have neighborhoods the National Guard are afraid to go into much less law enforcement. :p
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This officer is standing on moral ground. If the tenets did the responsible thing and paid on time, there is no reason they should have to pack and go. I support him 100%. Those that pocketed the cash need to spend sometime in the county facilities.
I agree with this statement 100%
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