Missing Buttons?

Tactics · 10-07-08, 03:49 PM

There doesnt seem to be an abandon ship button nor a way to radio for help - IE, we're out of fuel from depth charge damage....come pick us up.

breadcatcher101 · 10-07-08, 04:15 PM

Sure there is, just press "Esc" on your keyboard.

Tactics · 10-07-08, 04:23 PM

....but then it says sub destroyed and I fail.

I like the realism aspect - staying alive is key, even if the boat does go down. I'm surprised/dissappointed this isnt in. Wasnt there an abandon ship button in SHII, if I recall correctly.

Does any existing mod address this?

Rockin Robbins · 10-07-08, 04:24 PM

Just press Alt-F4 and all your troubles will be over.

breadcatcher101 · 10-07-08, 04:37 PM

SH2 did have that, SH4 doesn't as far as I can tell. I do wish it had a feature where you could steer by using your engines to get you home. My rudder was destroyed once and I had to beach the boat on the China coast. At least we didn't drown. Main thing is don't run out of fuel.

Rockin Robbins · 10-07-08, 05:00 PM

I don't believe any boat in WWII called for help and got a tow home......hold it! U-505 got a tow, but not home.:rotfl:

10-07-08, 05:31 PM

X This is the USS Bernard X Requesting Tow home X Location: Tokyo Harbour X No engines X

:rotfl:

Tactics · 10-07-08, 06:21 PM

Submarine Tender anyone? The US Navy designation was AS.

"Submarines are relatively small compared to most oceangoing vessels, and generally do not have the ability to carry large amounts of food, fuel, torpedoes, and other supplies, nor to carry a full array of maintenance equipment and personnel. The tender carries all these, and either meets up with the submarines at sea to replenish them or provides these services while docked at a port near the area where the submarines are operating. In some navies, the tenders were equipped with workshops for maintenance, and as floating dormitories with relief crews."

The submarine tender USS Canopus (AS-9) received severe damage when hit by heavy bombers on December 29, 1941.

Lord Kelvin · 10-07-08, 06:35 PM

Yeah, but the thing here is that a tender also needs to be replenished every now and then, and they can't just cruise solo into Japanese waters. It does sound like something that you could make a mod out of though, a friendly "harbor" that travels with the occasional friendly task force.

But to address the original question, the thing to think about here is, even if you do manage to abandon ship, what then? Spend the rest of your career as a Japanese POW? Wouldn't be very fun to experience.

Tactics · 10-07-08, 06:47 PM

Yeah, I know.

I'd settle for a percentage chance though - Based on proximity to a friendly base vs. enemy. Even just the option to man the life rafts would be nice and letting the chips fall.

Hitting escape and exit to main menu blows all immerison, for me.

In this particular case I was based out of Manilla and right off the coast of Aparri when stranded...I could see land...

aanker · 10-07-08, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tactics

Yeah, I know.

I'd settle for a percentage chance though - Based on proximity to a friendly base vs. enemy. Even just the option to man the life rafts would be nice and letting the chips fall.

Hitting escape and exit to main menu blows all immerison, for me.

In this particular case I was based out of Manilla and right off the coast of Aparri when stranded...I could see land...

Same here. "Abandon ship" and then either KIA, POW, or Rescued to resume your career - if you're not fired by the brass .... lol

Art

Sailor Steve · 10-07-08, 08:47 PM

There is no 'Abandon Ship' order in SH3 or SH4. It would be nice if you could surrender, or abandon ship somewhere and have a chance of being rescued, or captured, but they didn't do that.

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Submarine Tender anyone? The US Navy designation was AS.

You say that as if no one has ever heard of one until now. Somebody saying they replenished subs at sea doesn't make it so. I've never heard of a case of that happening. I was on a destroyer, not a sub, but our tenders were strictly harbor-bound. Their function was to serve as a portable base for the small ships. They had full repair facilities and everything you could want but a drydock, but they were too precious to send scurrying around helping wayward lambs.

I had fun getting towed home in SH1, but I never heard of that happening in real life either.

Tactics · 10-07-08, 10:13 PM

It was an informational sentence. Don't be so sensitive.

aanker · 10-07-08, 10:48 PM

It's a game. IMO there's no reason why the crew should die of C02 poisoning at 26' when I can go on the bridge. That isn't realistic to take the plunge to 1,000's of feet and crush when they could easily abandon ship at 26' and take their chances swimming.

peabody · 10-07-08, 11:00 PM

It has been discussed many times, plain and simple, it's not in the game. And the sub tender is in the game but it won't replenish your sub either. That's just the way it is.

(And for the new guys that are going to pop in and tell me that the sub tender does set up refit stations during the war, the sub tender does nothing!)

Peabody

10-07-08, 03:49 PM	#1
Tactics Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Missing Buttons? There doesnt seem to be an abandon ship button nor a way to radio for help - IE, we're out of fuel from depth charge damage....come pick us up.

10-07-08, 04:24 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Just press Alt-F4 and all your troubles will be over. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 10-07-08 at 04:35 PM.

10-07-08, 05:00 PM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I don't believe any boat in WWII called for help and got a tow home......hold it! U-505 got a tow, but not home.:rotfl: __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-07-08, 11:00 PM	#15
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	It has been discussed many times, plain and simple, it's not in the game. And the sub tender is in the game but it won't replenish your sub either. That's just the way it is. (And for the new guys that are going to pop in and tell me that the sub tender does set up refit stations during the war, the sub tender does nothing!) Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

10-07-08, 04:15 PM	#2
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sure there is, just press "Esc" on your keyboard.

10-07-08, 04:23 PM	#3
Tactics Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	....but then it says sub destroyed and I fail. I like the realism aspect - staying alive is key, even if the boat does go down. I'm surprised/dissappointed this isnt in. Wasnt there an abandon ship button in SHII, if I recall correctly. Does any existing mod address this?

10-07-08, 04:37 PM	#5
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	SH2 did have that, SH4 doesn't as far as I can tell. I do wish it had a feature where you could steer by using your engines to get you home. My rudder was destroyed once and I had to beach the boat on the China coast. At least we didn't drown. Main thing is don't run out of fuel.

10-07-08, 05:31 PM	#7
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	X This is the USS Bernard X Requesting Tow home X Location: Tokyo Harbour X No engines X :rotfl:

10-07-08, 06:21 PM	#8
Tactics Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Submarine Tender anyone? The US Navy designation was AS. "Submarines are relatively small compared to most oceangoing vessels, and generally do not have the ability to carry large amounts of food, fuel, torpedoes, and other supplies, nor to carry a full array of maintenance equipment and personnel. The tender carries all these, and either meets up with the submarines at sea to replenish them or provides these services while docked at a port near the area where the submarines are operating. In some navies, the tenders were equipped with workshops for maintenance, and as floating dormitories with relief crews." The submarine tender USS Canopus (AS-9) received severe damage when hit by heavy bombers on December 29, 1941.

10-07-08, 06:35 PM	#9
Lord Kelvin Loader Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 88 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Yeah, but the thing here is that a tender also needs to be replenished every now and then, and they can't just cruise solo into Japanese waters. It does sound like something that you could make a mod out of though, a friendly "harbor" that travels with the occasional friendly task force. But to address the original question, the thing to think about here is, even if you do manage to abandon ship, what then? Spend the rest of your career as a Japanese POW? Wouldn't be very fun to experience.

10-07-08, 06:47 PM	#10
Tactics Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I know. I'd settle for a percentage chance though - Based on proximity to a friendly base vs. enemy. Even just the option to man the life rafts would be nice and letting the chips fall. Hitting escape and exit to main menu blows all immerison, for me. In this particular case I was based out of Manilla and right off the coast of Aparri when stranded...I could see land...

10-07-08, 10:13 PM	#13
Tactics Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	It was an informational sentence. Don't be so sensitive.

10-07-08, 10:48 PM	#14
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	It's a game. IMO there's no reason why the crew should die of C02 poisoning at 26' when I can go on the bridge. That isn't realistic to take the plunge to 1,000's of feet and crush when they could easily abandon ship at 26' and take their chances swimming.