Holy cow - have you seen the latest ELO-values for chess engines?

Skybird · 09-30-08, 04:48 AM

http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm

Beyond 3200 ELO - that is something. Note that the SSDF already uses the international ELO-calculation that differs form that used in the American chess association (which constantly raises ELOs, especially with computer, by around 200 points). In USCF-ELO, the top list entry maybe would read around 3400-3450 ELO.

for comparison: the strongest human ELO value ever scored was Gary Kasparov with 2851 (the majority of the chess world sees him as the strongest player ever in the history of chess). Beginners rate at around 1000-1300 ELO, regular players at around 1500-1800 ELO, club and tournament players (non-professional up to 2200-2300) - beyond that the official master-ranks begin.

However, the SSDF list may be the most popular and oldest of them all, but even this loist has seen repeated down-corrections in it's history, so the spectacular values should not blind anybody - that they are gong constantly upwards has it'S reason in mathematical implications of the method, and does not necessarily reflect total playing strength comparable to that of the the human's ELO-list. I assume that if you substract 400-600 points, maybe even more (who knows) you probably are closer to the truth. but a chess engine producing a strength of let's say 2750 ELO still would be a total beast to play for any grandmaster in the world. The list of players having an ELO beyond 2700, is short.

Hal, play "Misty" for me...

09-30-08, 04:48 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Holy cow - have you seen the latest ELO-values for chess engines? http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm Beyond 3200 ELO - that is something. Note that the SSDF already uses the international ELO-calculation that differs form that used in the American chess association (which constantly raises ELOs, especially with computer, by around 200 points). In USCF-ELO, the top list entry maybe would read around 3400-3450 ELO. for comparison: the strongest human ELO value ever scored was Gary Kasparov with 2851 (the majority of the chess world sees him as the strongest player ever in the history of chess). Beginners rate at around 1000-1300 ELO, regular players at around 1500-1800 ELO, club and tournament players (non-professional up to 2200-2300) - beyond that the official master-ranks begin. However, the SSDF list may be the most popular and oldest of them all, but even this loist has seen repeated down-corrections in it's history, so the spectacular values should not blind anybody - that they are gong constantly upwards has it'S reason in mathematical implications of the method, and does not necessarily reflect total playing strength comparable to that of the the human's ELO-list. I assume that if you substract 400-600 points, maybe even more (who knows) you probably are closer to the truth. but a chess engine producing a strength of let's say 2750 ELO still would be a total beast to play for any grandmaster in the world. The list of players having an ELO beyond 2700, is short. Hal, play "Misty" for me... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.