bearing lines

geosub1978 · 09-24-08, 05:41 PM

Hello, let me ask something that might be very usefull if it is possible:

Is it possible to change something in order to keep the hydrophone bearing lines showed on the nav map, even if we have disabled the map updates or is it hardcoded???

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The idea is that in real life normaly the captain is more interactive with sonar operator and he gives to the captain the picture that he has compiled. In SH3 this is not possible to that extent, except if you operate the sonar manually. So if we could have the bearing lines constantly displayed and updated on the navmap, this would not be regarded as "cheating" or "unrealistik" finally. This will have further benefits in: plotting, correlation, detection etc.

Sailor Steve · 09-24-08, 09:05 PM

I think you can only have one or the other.

However...

In my sig you'll find '1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod'. It makes a special map that lets you keep 'Contact Updates' on, while not giving the renown hit. It removes all lines from the map when surfaced, unless you lock onto one, then it shows it as 'Contact'. Once you identify it (or have the WE identify it) it now shows up as exactly what it is. It also has sonar bearing lines, but they are dashed. I replaced mine with stock ones that show the solid line.

Download '1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod', and, if you want, I'll put up the stock 'lines' files so you can use them as well. The picture below is of Kiel in GWX 2.1. There are more than 20 ships in the harbor. The only one you see is the one I have tagged and identified. Much more realistic, I think.

geosub1978 · 09-24-08, 11:22 PM

I had heard about this mod but hadn't try it. Intresting, I will see how it works. Thank you.

EDIT:

The instructions promice that something very good can be done closer to what I want! Am I allowed for some changes?
Thanks again! Maybe I will need the lines. I will tell you!

geosub1978 · 09-25-08, 04:05 AM

Yes, although I am away from my SH3 I studied this mod and it is definetly intresting. But I will state it also like this to anyone intrested:

With MAPUPDATE enabled, would it be possible:

1. To have the sonar bearings updated with the periscope above the water instead of the range and bearing (ship silluete)?

2. On surface no update to anything.

Sailor Steve · 09-25-08, 09:08 PM

[quote=geosub1978]Yes, although I am away from my SH3 I studied this mod and it is definetly intresting. But I will state it also like this to anyone intrested:

Quote:

With MAPUPDATE enabled, would it be possible:

1. To have the sonar bearings updated with the periscope above the water instead of the range and bearing (ship silluete)?

Okay, I see what you are saying now. I misunderstood in your PM. I don't think there is a fix for that. You don't want to leave the periscope up while you go to the map anyway - they might spot it if it's up too long. The update that you click on will stay there for awhile after you put the 'scope down.

Quote:

2. On surface no update to anything.

That picture I posted was taken while I was on the surface. The only update you see is the one I locked onto with the UZO.

Sag75 · 09-26-08, 12:01 AM

Could be possible link the "ok" button in the Hydrophone's sheet to the hydrophone line on the map? :hmm:

it would be nice!

I think is not possible..

Sailor Steve · 09-26-08, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75

Could be possible link the "ok" button in the Hydrophone's sheet to the hydrophone line on the map? :hmm:

it would be nice!

I think is not possible..

I'm not sure what you mean about the "ok" button.

geosub1978 · 09-26-08, 10:13 AM

I think he means a "MARK" button. So as if you want to plot a hydrophone bearing just to set the hydrophone cursor to the bearing until you get the report "MERCHANT" or "WARSHIP", press "MARK" and have the bearing plotted on the map. Hmmm.......! Useful for manual targeting for the periscope also, but probably hardly coded!

Sag75 · 09-26-08, 01:01 PM

yes! exactly that button..

anyway, I also think it's hardcoded..

Sag75 · 09-27-08, 11:08 AM

we could circumnavigate the problem leaving the map update on in options menu, and modifing the units symbols as invisible (but the notebook?)

:hmm:

geosub1978 · 09-27-08, 11:54 AM

This is similar to Steve's MOD check it!

09-24-08, 05:41 PM	#1
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	bearing lines Hello, let me ask something that might be very usefull if it is possible: Is it possible to change something in order to keep the hydrophone bearing lines showed on the nav map, even if we have disabled the map updates or is it hardcoded??? . The idea is that in real life normaly the captain is more interactive with sonar operator and he gives to the captain the picture that he has compiled. In SH3 this is not possible to that extent, except if you operate the sonar manually. So if we could have the bearing lines constantly displayed and updated on the navmap, this would not be regarded as "cheating" or "unrealistik" finally. This will have further benefits in: plotting, correlation, detection etc. __________________

09-24-08, 09:05 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I think you can only have one or the other. However... In my sig you'll find '1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod'. It makes a special map that lets you keep 'Contact Updates' on, while not giving the renown hit. It removes all lines from the map when surfaced, unless you lock onto one, then it shows it as 'Contact'. Once you identify it (or have the WE identify it) it now shows up as exactly what it is. It also has sonar bearing lines, but they are dashed. I replaced mine with stock ones that show the solid line. Download '1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod', and, if you want, I'll put up the stock 'lines' files so you can use them as well. The picture below is of Kiel in GWX 2.1. There are more than 20 ships in the harbor. The only one you see is the one I have tagged and identified. Much more realistic, I think. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-24-08, 11:22 PM	#3
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	I had heard about this mod but hadn't try it. Intresting, I will see how it works. Thank you. EDIT: The instructions promice that something very good can be done closer to what I want! Am I allowed for some changes? Thanks again! Maybe I will need the lines. I will tell you! __________________ Last edited by geosub1978; 09-25-08 at 12:03 AM.

09-25-08, 04:05 AM	#4
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	We Are On Good Way Yes, although I am away from my SH3 I studied this mod and it is definetly intresting. But I will state it also like this to anyone intrested: *With MAPUPDATE enabled, would it be possible:* *1. To have the sonar bearings updated with the periscope above the water instead of the range and bearing (ship silluete)?* *2. On surface no update to anything.* __________________

09-26-08, 12:01 AM	#6
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Could be possible link the "ok" button in the Hydrophone's sheet to the hydrophone line on the map? :hmm: it would be nice! I think is not possible.. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

09-26-08, 10:13 AM	#8
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	I think he means a "MARK" button. So as if you want to plot a hydrophone bearing just to set the hydrophone cursor to the bearing until you get the report "MERCHANT" or "WARSHIP", press "MARK" and have the bearing plotted on the map. Hmmm.......! Useful for manual targeting for the periscope also, but probably hardly coded! __________________

09-26-08, 01:01 PM	#9
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	yes! exactly that button.. anyway, I also think it's hardcoded.. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

09-27-08, 11:08 AM	#10
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	we could circumnavigate the problem leaving the map update on in options menu, and modifing the units symbols as invisible (but the notebook?) :hmm: __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

09-27-08, 11:54 AM	#11
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	This is similar to Steve's MOD check it! __________________