send contact report???

maverick76 · 09-15-08, 02:59 AM

I cannot send a contact report when i have a contact..the button does not react and even when i am giving orders to the radioman i will not send.

I dont have problems with sending a status report.

It is 1940 and type boat: IXb. U-105

Anyone knows what i am doing wrong??

thanx

Kielhauler1961 · 09-15-08, 03:07 AM

I believe there must be at least three hostile targets visible to your watch crew and inside a certain range. Until you hear "Ship spotted" you won't be able to send. Getting a visual on them through the UZO isn't sufficient. You also have to be surfaced.

nirwana · 09-15-08, 03:29 AM

Afaik there must be 2 hrs between the convoy seighted msgs (which includes the AI convoy msgs as well) to avoid the exploit to get an exact heading and speed of it by creating and reading those msgs too often.

Jimbuna · 09-15-08, 04:54 AM

You should be surfaced and within visual (naked eye) range of the contact.

GoldenRivet · 09-15-08, 12:50 PM

if you click on your radio man and instruct him to send the report instead of doing so yourself.... he will send a report no matter how many ships appear.

maverick76 · 09-15-08, 01:59 PM

okay it is clear to me. Thank all of you!

PappyCain · 09-16-08, 11:47 AM

Interesting points. We were able to get our hands on Enigma by Ultra and decipher U-Boat message traffic and also plot subs - my question: how accurately or not is that fact programmed? Do we increase our chances of detection? I play like we do but than again I am always assuming radio transmissions are monitored if not quickly deciphered. I used listen to merchants in the dead of night catching them on my tube radio ashore in my Doctor Denton's!

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GoldenRivet · 09-16-08, 11:49 AM

sending radio messages of any kind in SH3 increases the chances that aircraft or nearby destroyers will close your position.

what the exact % increase in those odds might be is beyond me... but it does increase.

andym · 09-16-08, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

sending radio messages of any kind in SH3 increases the chances that aircraft or nearby destroyers will close your position.

what the exact % increase in those odds might be is beyond me... but it does increase.

Ooooer,i totally forgot about that!!!!That will explain things last night!

Kielhauler1961 · 09-16-08, 01:07 PM

It's called 'High-Frequency Direction Finding' (Huff-Duff) and was used from shore stations to begin with, then later, when the sets were small enough, from surface ships. By 1943 it was common for at least two convoy escorts, plus the rescue ship at the rear, to carry this device.

It didn't read or decipher the messages, it just pin-pointed the source of transmission. By using simple triangulation it could cross-reference the point of a 'talkative' U-Boat and then friendly forces would be homed onto it. The Germans never understood this and abused the radio right up to the end of the war.

Google 'huff-duff' and read the wiki.

Remember the old war sayings: 'Careless talk costs lives' (UK) and 'Loose lips sink ships' (USA). In this case, they are your lives.

Jimbuna · 09-17-08, 12:33 PM

http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hfdf.htm

http://www.jacksjoint.com/huffduff.htm

09-15-08, 02:59 AM	#1
maverick76 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	send contact report??? I cannot send a contact report when i have a contact..the button does not react and even when i am giving orders to the radioman i will not send. I dont have problems with sending a status report. It is 1940 and type boat: IXb. U-105 Anyone knows what i am doing wrong?? thanx

09-15-08, 04:54 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You should be surfaced and within visual (naked eye) range of the contact. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-15-08, 12:50 PM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	if you click on your radio man and instruct him to send the report instead of doing so yourself.... he will send a report no matter how many ships appear. __________________

09-16-08, 11:47 AM	#7
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Interesting points. We were able to get our hands on Enigma by Ultra and decipher U-Boat message traffic and also plot subs - my question: how accurately or not is that fact programmed? Do we increase our chances of detection? I play like we do but than again I am always assuming radio transmissions are monitored if not quickly deciphered. I used listen to merchants in the dead of night catching them on my tube radio ashore in my Doctor Denton's! S' PC __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

09-16-08, 11:49 AM	#8
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	sending radio messages of any kind in SH3 increases the chances that aircraft or nearby destroyers will close your position. what the exact % increase in those odds might be is beyond me... but it does increase. __________________

09-15-08, 03:07 AM	#2
Kielhauler1961 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East of the Firth of Forth Posts: 273 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I believe there must be at least three hostile targets visible to your watch crew and inside a certain range. Until you hear "Ship spotted" you won't be able to send. Getting a visual on them through the UZO isn't sufficient. You also have to be surfaced.

09-15-08, 03:29 AM	#3
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Afaik there must be 2 hrs between the convoy seighted msgs (which includes the AI convoy msgs as well) to avoid the exploit to get an exact heading and speed of it by creating and reading those msgs too often.

09-15-08, 01:59 PM	#6
maverick76 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	okay it is clear to me. Thank all of you!

09-16-08, 01:07 PM	#10
Kielhauler1961 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: East of the Firth of Forth Posts: 273 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	It's called 'High-Frequency Direction Finding' (Huff-Duff) and was used from shore stations to begin with, then later, when the sets were small enough, from surface ships. By 1943 it was common for at least two convoy escorts, plus the rescue ship at the rear, to carry this device. It didn't read or decipher the messages, it just pin-pointed the source of transmission. By using simple triangulation it could cross-reference the point of a 'talkative' U-Boat and then friendly forces would be homed onto it. The Germans never understood this and abused the radio right up to the end of the war. Google 'huff-duff' and read the wiki. Remember the old war sayings: 'Careless talk costs lives' (UK) and 'Loose lips sink ships' (USA). In this case, they are your lives.

09-17-08, 12:33 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/hfdf.htm http://www.jacksjoint.com/huffduff.htm __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!