GWX 2.1, some changes I noticed

The_Blockade_Runner · 09-05-08, 06:46 PM

Hi, Ive been playing the GWX 2.1 mod for 2 days now and here is the things I noticed different, and somethings Im having trouble with:

1.- Opening the torpedo hatches has a new sound

2.- Im using a Type IIA and noticed it has a MUCH larger range now

3.- Ships can take a lot more damage. I havnt sunk anything with one hit yet, not even going for the known weak spots. Everything is taking 2-3 torps to sink now, even the small merchants. If someone could provide advice on where to aim on a small merchant and a small passanger/cargo to get a one hit kill, please provide it will be very helpfull

4.- Im getting far less renown. Using the same realism settings as I did on GWX 2.0, Where I would be getting about 700-1000 renown for a similar patrol im only getting about 100-150.

anyway I love the mod

I guess next career im starting out with a VIIB because of the renown hit.

KeptinCranky · 09-05-08, 06:51 PM

umm, you're comparing to GWX 2.0 ?

in that case:

1 yes

2 ranges were adjusted somewhat for most boats

3 Not that I've noticed, nothing changed to the damage model as far as I know, might be you'll have to wait a bit longer for them to sink, but I can consistently sink most merchants with 1 eel in GWX

4 ? don't know about that, also haven't noticed that problem

might you be using additional mods that could cause some of these strange effects?

Task Force · 09-05-08, 06:52 PM

1 I believe they changed the sound for the tubes.

2 I think subs actualy had a option to put fule in a extra tank the stock game and 2.0 didnt simulate.

3 They changed damage model to make it more realistic/ some of it is a stock bug (with small merchents).

4 took out the get to grid and get 500 points thing.

bigboywooly · 09-05-08, 06:57 PM

Ranges were increased slightly IIRC as the SH3world is larger than the real one
Yes a new sound for the torp doors

There were no changes to merchant damage models
Armed trawler had some changes to stop it blowing its racks off but that was it IIRC

Renown was removed for reaching and patrolling your grid
Us easily modded back in
So many have done so already

09-05-08, 07:04 PM

Yep.
The NTRW or Armed Trawler had it's zones adjusted.
The rest?
I put down to bad aiming.
I'm probably the worst shot you ever want to meet!
But I have no problems with one or two shot kills.

Infact?
It may have been a standing order to do a spread shot on all ships.
Was it not?
:hmm:

bigboywooly · 09-05-08, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Yep.
The NTRW or Armed Trawler had it's zones adjusted.
The rest?
I put down to bad aiming.
I'm probably the worst shot you ever want to meet!
But I have no problems with one or two shot kills.

Infact?
It may have been a standing order to do a spread shot on all ships.
Was it not?
:hmm:

Yes but they didnt come across as much shipping as in game so didnt need to conserve torpedos
:rotfl:

09-05-08, 07:39 PM

There you go!!
The EXPERT has spoken!!
I'll now go bother others.
:rotfl:

I seem to recall Steve saying something about
a liar sheep?

Sailor Steve · 09-06-08, 01:43 AM

I don't know about the Type IIA specifically, but if its range was increased by a large amount it would be realistic, because there were only six IIAs, and the biggest difference with the IIB was its increased range.

@ Privateer: If you don't stop spreading rumors about me I'm going to tell 'em all about the shoe fetish.:p

lobomarinho · 09-07-08, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Ranges were increased slightly IIRC as the SH3world is larger than the real one
Yes a new sound for the torp doors

There were no changes to merchant damage models
Armed trawler had some changes to stop it blowing its racks off but that was it IIRC

Renown was removed for reaching and patrolling your grid
Us easily modded back in
So many have done so already

What do you mean by this?? Is there a mod to get back renown for reaching a grid in gwx 2.1?

Pisces · 09-07-08, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobomarinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Ranges were increased slightly IIRC as the SH3world is larger than the real one
Yes a new sound for the torp doors

There were no changes to merchant damage models
Armed trawler had some changes to stop it blowing its racks off but that was it IIRC

Renown was removed for reaching and patrolling your grid
Us easily modded back in
So many have done so already

What do you mean by this?? Is there a mod to get back renown for reaching a grid in gwx 2.1?

See his message in this thread of yesterday:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141804

G.K. · 09-07-08, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blockade_Runner

3.- Ships can take a lot more damage. I havnt sunk anything with one hit yet, not even going for the known weak spots. Everything is taking 2-3 torps to sink now, even the small merchants. If someone could provide advice on where to aim on a small merchant and a small passanger/cargo to get a one hit kill, please provide it will be very helpfull

I always aim for bow or stern ( not to midship parts ) when sinking those ships, if you hit them here, they'll sink in a short time due to flooding

09-05-08, 06:46 PM	#1
The_Blockade_Runner Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	GWX 2.1, some changes I noticed Hi, Ive been playing the GWX 2.1 mod for 2 days now and here is the things I noticed different, and somethings Im having trouble with: 1.- Opening the torpedo hatches has a new sound 2.- Im using a Type IIA and noticed it has a MUCH larger range now 3.- Ships can take a lot more damage. I havnt sunk anything with one hit yet, not even going for the known weak spots. Everything is taking 2-3 torps to sink now, even the small merchants. If someone could provide advice on where to aim on a small merchant and a small passanger/cargo to get a one hit kill, please provide it will be very helpfull 4.- Im getting far less renown. Using the same realism settings as I did on GWX 2.0, Where I would be getting about 700-1000 renown for a similar patrol im only getting about 100-150. anyway I love the mod I guess next career im starting out with a VIIB because of the renown hit. __________________ U boat warfare, Product of German Engineering. German Engineering in da house

09-05-08, 06:52 PM	#3
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	1 I believe they changed the sound for the tubes. 2 I think subs actualy had a option to put fule in a extra tank the stock game and 2.0 didnt simulate. 3 They changed damage model to make it more realistic/ some of it is a stock bug (with small merchents). 4 took out the get to grid and get 500 points thing. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

09-05-08, 06:57 PM	#4
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Ranges were increased slightly IIRC as the SH3world is larger than the real one Yes a new sound for the torp doors There were no changes to merchant damage models Armed trawler had some changes to stop it blowing its racks off but that was it IIRC Renown was removed for reaching and patrolling your grid Us easily modded back in So many have done so already __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-06-08, 01:43 AM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't know about the Type IIA specifically, but if its range was increased by a large amount it would be realistic, because there were only six IIAs, and the biggest difference with the IIB was its increased range. @ Privateer: If you don't stop spreading rumors about me I'm going to tell 'em all about the shoe fetish.:p __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-05-08, 06:51 PM	#2
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	umm, you're comparing to GWX 2.0 ? in that case: 1 yes 2 ranges were adjusted somewhat for most boats 3 Not that I've noticed, nothing changed to the damage model as far as I know, might be you'll have to wait a bit longer for them to sink, but I can consistently sink most merchants with 1 eel in GWX 4 ? don't know about that, also haven't noticed that problem might you be using additional mods that could cause some of these strange effects?

09-05-08, 07:04 PM	#5
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yep. The NTRW or Armed Trawler had it's zones adjusted. The rest? I put down to bad aiming. I'm probably the worst shot you ever want to meet! But I have no problems with one or two shot kills. Infact? It may have been a standing order to do a spread shot on all ships. Was it not? :hmm:

09-05-08, 07:39 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	There you go!! The EXPERT has spoken!! I'll now go bother others. :rotfl: I seem to recall Steve saying something about a liar sheep?