Chess again, anyone?

Skybird · 08-31-08, 05:50 PM

"As you see I pick your idea, J., and set it up!"

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The old hands around do remember, the newcomers have not been here long enough to know:

Early 2006, we had a series of chess matches that had been held in public on this board, in correspondence chess fashion. Use the search-button and enter "chessmatch", which will give you the threads.

I of course especially remember my two matches with Scandium, who meanwhile went missing, because the matches were complex and challenging, and characterized by plenty of funny trash-talking.

I wonder if there is any interest to revive the idea and launch another couple of duels? I again would volunteer to provide position diagrams, if players do not have according software themselves. that way it is easier for the audience to follow.

rules would be like back then: books and theory help is allowed, but by code of honour (we cannot control it) computer assistance for calculating moves is banned (different to correspondence chess where it is not regulated, but what is the use in letting our chess programs play against each as long as it is not a dedicated thread for public discussion?). Software to log moves and create position diagrams is allowed. for those not having seen the first matches, check the old threads via search-button, they are still there. Match and Rematch is enocuraged, we also could play all matches simultaneously, as is common standard in correspondence chess, if people agree . I recommend to use a standard as orientation to have at least 40 moves in 30 days, which, as far as I remember, also is the norm in corresp. chess (or was it 30 in 30?) . Full notation and repeating the last move of the opponent before answering with one'S own is encouraged, to prevent mistakes. Comments of the audience are okay as long as they do not actoveoly support any of the player with move suggestions. Analysis of past situations during the match is okay if not affecting current and future chances of players. we want communication and humour, and no silent, bitterly serious club.

Well...?

Skybird · 08-31-08, 06:27 PM

And while we are at it: attention Mephisto lovers,

as insiders may know, Ed Schroeder, programmer of the famous Rebel-programs and provider of several Mephisto-chess programs, has retreated from the scene longer time ago. However, you can download - legally! - from his very own website the original code for the very popular Mephisto M-IV and Mephisto M-V programs. they will run from within the MESS1.0 emulator, that comes with the dopwnload. the installation is uncomplicated, and the interface is nothing special, it only emulates a four digit LED-display, and copies the keyboard of the module (but you need to use the pc keyboard). You have all functions of the Mephisto-module keyboard on the F-keys. you type in your move, and you get Mephisto'S move. the emulated LED shows the same kind of information, like the original Mephisto do.

This is a great thing if you want to play against a software from the golden age of chess computers for whatever a reason, may it be sentimental feelings, or that modern PC software is too overkill for you. you can also let software run in different speed modes: the original 5 MHz of the Mephisto processors, or severl hu7ndred percent faster, or unlimited at the speed your PC is capablpe of.that way you can check what the code really could have done back then - if running on ultracool hardware (turbokits we called them back then, right?).

I have a small collection of chescomputers, some of which are really rare, and amongst themk of course is also a Mephisto Exclusive board with the M-IV module and the HG440 opening module. for some reason this machine I love more than any of the others, even the more precious ones. It is a shame that I have not the room to store them on display in my flat, and need to keep them hidden in my cellar.

http://www.top-5000.nl/index.htm

After launching the emulator, you have a list of plenty of prgrams, however, only the Mephisto M-IV and V (5.1) are included. IV works flawlessly, 5.1 gives you an error messge about missing files, and then fires up as well. I did not play a full match, only with IV i played two. I can confrim that IV works perfect. To adress the original module keys, go to menu->options.

Classic! Those were the days, I tell you...

Platapus · 08-31-08, 08:02 PM

Anyone remember the Boris chess computer?

http://www.decodesystems.com/boris.html

clive bradbury · 09-01-08, 02:46 AM

Count me in for a tournament, Skybird.

Skybird · 09-01-08, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Anyone remember the Boris chess computer?

http://www.decodesystems.com/boris.html

Yeayh, groovy baby...!

Quote:

Originally Posted by clive bradbury

Count me in for a tournament, Skybird.

Okay, we'll see if some more players show up or not. In the meantime there is no reason why we should not get things started.

Would you like to play both matches simultaneously in two separate threads, or one by one? Both would be two separate threads with independent "timing".

clive bradbury · 09-01-08, 04:04 AM

simultaneously would be fine by me.

Skybird · 09-01-08, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clive bradbury

simultaneously would be fine by me.

Okay, I have just started two new threads named CHESS 2008.

I would suggest that any additonal players finding themselves to participate also use that title and than the duelist's names, that way it should be easier to find the matches in the topic list.

Come on guys, don't tell me that in the age of video games just two persons are left playing chess!

UnderseaLcpl · 09-01-08, 04:45 AM

Ok, I'm going to jump in.

My forces could use a good ignominious rout.

Skybird · 09-01-08, 05:20 AM

For everybody not having a chess interface, this one is free, you can use it to keep track of your matches and moves, or to play against the computer. there are many free engines around. some of them are very strong, others play more "humane".

http://www.playwitharena.com/

Skybird · 09-01-08, 07:59 AM

Guys, this friendly marine is looking for an opponent, so if you please... at least one of you...

Letum · 09-01-08, 10:21 AM

I'm up for some games.

clive bradbury · 09-01-08, 10:34 AM

How about a league, all play all?

fatty · 09-01-08, 10:48 AM

It's been a while and I was never very good, but I will play too

Skybird · 09-01-08, 10:53 AM

Letum and Fatty enter the pit where UnderseaLcpl already is camping.

However you get your matches started, will you please consider that UnderseaLcpl has waited the longest time. get him started!

Skybird · 09-01-08, 03:15 PM

This proud Canadian fella is left and nobody wants to play him...?

shame on you guys - subsimmers you want to be, but leave a lonely soul behind and don't care?

Fatty, it's 22:22 over here, but if tomorrow by noon time nobody has shown up to play you, I would be honoured if you accept me as your opponent.

P.S.,
Letum, Lance, Fatty, why don'T you three play simultaneously against each other if no sixth man shows up, that makes two matches for each of you, and then a 2nd round later with changed colours?

08-31-08, 05:50 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Chess again, anyone? "As you see I pick your idea, J., and set it up!" ----- The old hands around do remember, the newcomers have not been here long enough to know: Early 2006, we had a series of chess matches that had been held in public on this board, in correspondence chess fashion. Use the search-button and enter "chessmatch", which will give you the threads. I of course especially remember my two matches with Scandium, who meanwhile went missing, because the matches were complex and challenging, and characterized by plenty of funny trash-talking. I wonder if there is any interest to revive the idea and launch another couple of duels? I again would volunteer to provide position diagrams, if players do not have according software themselves. that way it is easier for the audience to follow. rules would be like back then: books and theory help is allowed, but by code of honour (we cannot control it) computer assistance for calculating moves is banned (different to correspondence chess where it is not regulated, but what is the use in letting our chess programs play against each as long as it is not a dedicated thread for public discussion?). Software to log moves and create position diagrams is allowed. for those not having seen the first matches, check the old threads via search-button, they are still there. Match and Rematch is enocuraged, we also could play all matches simultaneously, as is common standard in correspondence chess, if people agree . I recommend to use a standard as orientation to have at least 40 moves in 30 days, which, as far as I remember, also is the norm in corresp. chess (or was it 30 in 30?) . Full notation and repeating the last move of the opponent before answering with one'S own is encouraged, to prevent mistakes. Comments of the audience are okay as long as they do not actoveoly support any of the player with move suggestions. Analysis of past situations during the match is okay if not affecting current and future chances of players. we want communication and humour, and no silent, bitterly serious club. Well...? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-31-08, 06:27 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	And while we are at it: attention Mephisto lovers, as insiders may know, Ed Schroeder, programmer of the famous Rebel-programs and provider of several Mephisto-chess programs, has retreated from the scene longer time ago. However, you can download - *legally!* - from his very own website the original code for the very popular Mephisto M-IV and Mephisto M-V programs. they will run from within the MESS1.0 emulator, that comes with the dopwnload. the installation is uncomplicated, and the interface is nothing special, it only emulates a four digit LED-display, and copies the keyboard of the module (but you need to use the pc keyboard). You have all functions of the Mephisto-module keyboard on the F-keys. you type in your move, and you get Mephisto'S move. the emulated LED shows the same kind of information, like the original Mephisto do. This is a great thing if you want to play against a software from the golden age of chess computers for whatever a reason, may it be sentimental feelings, or that modern PC software is too overkill for you. you can also let software run in different speed modes: the original 5 MHz of the Mephisto processors, or severl hu7ndred percent faster, or unlimited at the speed your PC is capablpe of.that way you can check what the code really could have done back then - if running on ultracool hardware (turbokits we called them back then, right?). I have a small collection of chescomputers, some of which are really rare, and amongst themk of course is also a Mephisto Exclusive board with the M-IV module and the HG440 opening module. for some reason this machine I love more than any of the others, even the more precious ones. It is a shame that I have not the room to store them on display in my flat, and need to keep them hidden in my cellar. http://www.top-5000.nl/index.htm After launching the emulator, you have a list of plenty of prgrams, however, only the Mephisto M-IV and V (5.1) are included. IV works flawlessly, 5.1 gives you an error messge about missing files, and then fires up as well. I did not play a full match, only with IV i played two. I can confrim that IV works perfect. To adress the original module keys, go to menu->options. Classic! Those were the days, I tell you... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-31-08 at 06:48 PM.

08-31-08, 08:02 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Anyone remember the Boris chess computer? http://www.decodesystems.com/boris.html __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-01-08, 04:45 AM	#8
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, I'm going to jump in. My forces could use a good ignominious rout. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

09-01-08, 05:20 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	For everybody not having a chess interface, this one is free, you can use it to keep track of your matches and moves, or to play against the computer. there are many free engines around. some of them are very strong, others play more "humane". http://www.playwitharena.com/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-01-08 at 05:54 AM.

09-01-08, 02:46 AM	#4
clive bradbury Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: stoke-on-trent, UK Posts: 492 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Count me in for a tournament, Skybird.

09-01-08, 04:04 AM	#6
clive bradbury Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: stoke-on-trent, UK Posts: 492 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	simultaneously would be fine by me.

09-01-08, 07:59 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Guys, this friendly marine is looking for an opponent, so if you please... at least one of you... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-08, 10:21 AM	#11
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I'm up for some games. __________________

09-01-08, 10:34 AM	#12
clive bradbury Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: stoke-on-trent, UK Posts: 492 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	How about a league, all play all?

09-01-08, 10:48 AM	#13
fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It's been a while and I was never very good, but I will play too

09-01-08, 10:53 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Letum and Fatty enter the pit where UnderseaLcpl already is camping. However you get your matches started, will you please consider that UnderseaLcpl has waited the longest time. get him started! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-08, 03:15 PM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This proud Canadian fella is left and nobody wants to play him...? shame on you guys - subsimmers you want to be, but leave a lonely soul behind and don't care? Fatty, it's 22:22 over here, but if tomorrow by noon time nobody has shown up to play you, I would be honoured if you accept me as your opponent. P.S., Letum, Lance, Fatty, why don'T you three play simultaneously against each other if no sixth man shows up, that makes two matches for each of you, and then a 2nd round later with changed colours? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.