NASA Confirms Liquid Lake On Saturn Moon

[SUBMAN1]

Cool! Literally too!

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RELEASE : 08-193

NASA Confirms Liquid Lake On Saturn Moon

PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA scientists have concluded that at least one of the large lakes observed on Saturn's moon Titan contains liquid hydrocarbons, and have positively identified the presence of ethane. This makes Titan the only body in our solar system beyond Earth known to have liquid on its surface.

Scientists made the discovery using data from an instrument aboard the Cassini spacecraft. The instrument identified chemically different materials based on the way they absorb and reflect infrared light. Before Cassini, scientists thought Titan would have global oceans of methane, ethane and other light hydrocarbons. More than 40 close flybys of Titan by Cassini show no such global oceans exist, but hundreds of dark lake-like features are present. Until now, it was not known whether these features were liquid or simply dark, solid material.

"This is the first observation that really pins down that Titan has a surface lake filled with liquid," said Bob Brown of the University of Arizona, Tucson. Brown is the team leader of Cassini's visual and mapping instrument. The results will be published in the July 31 issue of the journal Nature.

Ethane and several other simple hydrocarbons have been identified in Titan's atmosphere, which consists of 95 percent nitrogen, with methane making up the other 5 percent. Ethane and other hydrocarbons are products from atmospheric chemistry caused by the breakdown of methane by sunlight.

Some of the hydrocarbons react further and form fine aerosol particles. All of these things in Titan's atmosphere make detecting and identifying materials on the surface difficult, because these particles form a ubiquitous hydrocarbon haze that hinders the view. Liquid ethane was identified using a technique that removed the interference from the atmospheric hydrocarbons.

The visual and mapping instrument observed a lake, Ontario Lacus, in Titan's south polar region during a close Cassini flyby in December 2007. The lake is roughly 7,800 square miles in area, slightly larger than North America's Lake Ontario.

"Detection of liquid ethane confirms a long-held idea that lakes and seas filled with methane and ethane exist on Titan," said Larry Soderblom, a Cassini interdisciplinary scientist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Flagstaff, Ariz. "The fact we could detect the ethane spectral signatures of the lake even when it was so dimly illuminated, and at a slanted viewing path through Titan's atmosphere, raises expectations for exciting future lake discoveries by our instrument."

The ethane is in a liquid solution with methane, other hydrocarbons and nitrogen. At Titan's surface temperatures, approximately 300 degrees Fahrenheit below zero, these substances can exist as both liquid and gas. Titan shows overwhelming evidence of evaporation, rain, and fluid-carved channels draining into what, in this case, is a liquid hydrocarbon lake.

Earth has a hydrological cycle based on water and Titan has a cycle based on methane. Scientists ruled out the presence of water ice, ammonia, ammonia hydrate and carbon dioxide in Ontario Lacus. The observations also suggest the lake is evaporating. It is ringed by a dark beach, where the black lake merges with the bright shoreline. Cassini also observed a shelf and beach being exposed as the lake evaporates.

"During the next few years, the vast array of lakes and seas on Titan's north pole mapped with Cassini's radar instrument will emerge from polar darkness into sunlight, giving the infrared instrument rich opportunities to watch for seasonal changes of Titan's lakes," Soderblom said.

Launched in Oct. 1997, Cassini's 12 instruments have returned a daily stream of data from Saturn's system. The mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.

For information on Cassini, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/cassini

[Dowly]

Nice!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Nice!

Thats a big lake!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Yeah, great, now what about oil ?

Didn't ya notice? That lake is made out of hydrocarbons!

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[AVGWarhawk]

Now, how to get it?:hmm: Volunteers?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Now, how to get it?:hmm: Volunteers?

I'll go! That is if you can guarantee I can make it back alive!

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[AVGWarhawk]

There are only two guarantees in life. This trip to the new found lake and coming back is not one of them.

[Platapus]

When I first heard NASA's report that the liquid was hydrocarbons, I was wondering if McCain would now say we need to drill there and get oil back in a few months? Let's see Obama top that one!!!
:rotfl:

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Platapus

When I first heard NASA's report that the liquid was hydrocarbons, I was wondering if McCain would now say we need to drill there and get oil back in a few months? Let's see Obama top that one!!!
:rotfl:

Are you kidding? Obama would shoot that down in a heartbeat since it might upset the nice scenery for future generations!

Damn Tree huggers.

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[baggygreen]

great discovery imo.

i've said it before, i will say it again.

i love living in a time where such important discoveries can be made.

[baggygreen]

And to add to this great news..

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html

Water, that is, real H2O, has been proven on mars, along with other elements essential to supporting life.

[Peto]

Sub simmers would be great people to choose for deep space missions. I mean, they could fire up a quick campaign with the accelerated time feature removed and they'd be good for a few years. And, when they finished that one, they could start a new campaign in the other theater. That covers about 10 years right there.

And because they are so close to reality, the lack of showering could be considered as realism/ambiance.

WTH. I'll go!

:hmm:

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Peto

Sub simmers would be great people to choose for deep space missions. I mean, they could fire up a quick campaign with the accelerated time feature removed and they'd be good for a few years. And, when they finished that one, they could start a new campaign in the other theater. That covers about 10 years right there.

And because they are so close to reality, the lack of showering could be considered as realism/ambiance.

WTH. I'll go!

:hmm:

And it will give you the time for the 1x career you really want to do once in your life.

However I must take issue with one of your comments. Linking Subsim-ers being "close to reality" is spurious considering some of the threads here.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Sounds like a X-File to me.

[Peto]

Originally Posted by Platapus

And it will give you the time for the 1x career you really want to do once in your life.

However I must take issue with one of your comments. Linking Subsim-ers being "close to reality" is spurious considering some of the threads here.

A valid point.