Saved game load error & mod removal

u_tommy · 08-05-08, 05:43 AM

Hi lads, i'm pretty new to SH3 & GWX.

On my 1st career, 10th patrol.

When i installed GWX 2.1 i also installed all the mods that came with it. I have just uninstalled Merged Campaign & Indian Ocean Campaign, in order to speed up loading.. since reading the manual i realise i don't need them at present.

After uninstalling these mods my last saved game is causing sh3.exe to crash.

Is there a connection or is it just coincidence? Is it best to be in port when changing the mod config?

Thanks for any help.

p.s how can i change my avatar?

Rommer69 · 08-05-08, 05:53 AM

You should have done it at port. Try to reinstall and go to load the previous save.
Avatar changes automatically whn you post more messages. don´t know how to do it if you want to place the one that you want.

rifleman13 · 08-05-08, 05:53 AM

I ain't sure how to fix your save game but let's wait for some other more enlightened modder/GWX dev member to see this...

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Originally Posted by u_tommy

p.s how can i change my avatar?

In this... I can help!

Just keep posting... it's like a ranking system, if you want to add a custom avatar, you'll have to donate to the site (the big rectangular button to the upper right corner saying "Make a Donation" and Onkel Neal will give you a custom avatar...

u_tommy · 08-05-08, 06:06 AM

thanks for the avatar heads up.. good system, esp. the donate option!

I'll be a bilge rat for a bit yet then

I didn't really want to do anything b4 asking here... as saving my saved game would be very nice.

I suppose adding the mods again cant make it any worse.. right?.... silly me, removing mods mid cruise

Edit: re-installed the mods... same error same crash!.. i'm assuming the 2 previous at sea saves will be knacked as well.

Lesson learnt? (back to port silly) or is it fixable?

Jimbuna · 08-05-08, 06:14 AM

You could try reinstalling wahat you uninstalled, but it's long odds against a successful outcome.

It is generally only adviseable to change graphics files mid patrol......but ideally, only change anything whilst in port.

You should be okay at this stage to start a new career though.

Subwolf · 08-05-08, 08:13 AM

Do not remove or add any mod while at sea, the saved game will crash...simple as that.

Same happens if you save closer to AI ships or land than 50km. But I'm loosing convoys if I save more than 50km away, once I acually found it after a save, but the ships were going in all directions. I understand SH3 doesn't save their paths.

This means I have to finish up with a convoy or simply let it go before I save, usually the last option because I don't have time to play around the clock. It's frustrating when it's so hard to find convoys in GWX, too hard in my opinion. GWX focused too much on realism, killing much of the game play compared to stock SH3.

And the save issues on top of it, wonder if I should remove GWX because of these problems.

u_tommy · 08-05-08, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Subwolf

Do not remove or add any mod while at sea, the saved game will crash...simple as that.

Same happens if you save closer to AI ships or land than 50km. But I'm loosing convoys if I save more than 50km away, once I acually found it after a save, but the ships were going in all directions. I understand SH3 doesn't save their paths.

This means I have to finish up with a convoy or simply let it go before I save, usually the last option because I don't have time to play around the clock. It's frustrating when it's so hard to find convoys in GWX, too hard in my opinion. GWX focused too much on realism, killing much of the game play compared to stock SH3.

And the save issues on top of it, wonder if I should remove GWX because of these problems.

Yeah i had to start again in port.

I haven't played SH3 stock... i enjoy realism mods and was told about GWX.. so just dived head first into it. TBH i haven't had any major trouble finding convoys, i assume they are meant to be hard to find, thats a major part of the game. With high time compression convoys seems pretty regular.

I also am normally able to save near large convoys & land, only a couple of such saves have given me problems. But i routinely do it without a problem.

p.s. I just sunk my largest ship to date... Whale Factory Ship @ 12,000t

Subwolf · 08-05-08, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by u_tommy

I also am normally able to save near large convoys & land, only a couple of such saves have given me problems. But i routinely do it without a problem.

p.s. I just sunk my largest ship to date... Whale Factory Ship @ 12,000t

That's strange, I always have problems with saving too close. I'll give it another try then. My largest ship to date is the HMS Nelson of 36000t, it seems to appear in almost every convoy I run into, wonder how many HMS Nelsons they got :hmm:

u_tommy · 08-05-08, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Subwolf

That's strange, I always have problems with saving too close. I'll give it another try then. My largest ship to date is the HMS Nelson of 36000t, it seems to appear in almost every convoy I run into, wonder how many HMS Nelsons they got :hmm:

It appears to me its RAM/resource specific, if you run out of resources b4 it loads it seems to crash.

My rig is not that fancy, 2 GB RAM, AMD64 3500+, ATI x9800 (512RAM).

When it has failed to load, RAM usage has got to 1.3 GB and stopped rising. I may be off the make with this... but when the RAM stops rising and game has not loaded.. it's knacked! That's my technical assessment!

meduza · 08-05-08, 02:40 PM

I've noticed that the saved game gets corrupted more often if you play for long time, without saving/exiting. It might be a memory leak issue.

Before I even knew the issue existed, I was saving my game at any condition (in the port, during the convoy attack, evading a DD...) and never had any problem. A month ago I returned to the game, installed GWX and started playing for long periods of time

. I found out about the saving issue, and started to watch when I save, and yet I had a few CTDs after loading.

Rommer69 · 08-05-08, 04:32 PM

I agree with meduza, i save usually every time i have a chance to do something (approach a convoy, fire torpedos, once ships have sunk...) and many times i´m near ships, submerged or wathever thing that seems to be forbidden; only once i had a CTD and a minor bug i reported two days ago (Thread torpedo damage bug). i don´t remember how much time was i playing before these two saves.

08-05-08, 05:43 AM	#1
u_tommy Mate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Saved game load error & mod removal Hi lads, i'm pretty new to SH3 & GWX. On my 1st career, 10th patrol. When i installed GWX 2.1 i also installed all the mods that came with it. I have just uninstalled Merged Campaign & Indian Ocean Campaign, in order to speed up loading.. since reading the manual i realise i don't need them at present. After uninstalling these mods my last saved game is causing sh3.exe to crash. Is there a connection or is it just coincidence? Is it best to be in port when changing the mod config? Thanks for any help. p.s how can i change my avatar? __________________

08-05-08, 06:06 AM	#4
u_tommy Mate Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 55 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	thanks for the avatar heads up.. good system, esp. the donate option! I'll be a bilge rat for a bit yet then I didn't really want to do anything b4 asking here... as saving my saved game would be very nice. I suppose adding the mods again cant make it any worse.. right?.... silly me, removing mods mid cruise Edit: re-installed the mods... same error same crash!.. i'm assuming the 2 previous at sea saves will be knacked as well. Lesson learnt? (back to port silly) or is it fixable? __________________

08-05-08, 06:14 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You could try reinstalling wahat you uninstalled, but it's long odds against a successful outcome. It is generally only adviseable to change graphics files mid patrol......but ideally, only change anything whilst in port. You should be okay at this stage to start a new career though. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-05-08, 05:53 AM	#2
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	You should have done it at port. Try to reinstall and go to load the previous save. Avatar changes automatically whn you post more messages. don´t know how to do it if you want to place the one that you want.

08-05-08, 08:13 AM	#6
Subwolf Sonar Guy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA/Norway Posts: 394 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Do not remove or add any mod while at sea, the saved game will crash...simple as that. Same happens if you save closer to AI ships or land than 50km. But I'm loosing convoys if I save more than 50km away, once I acually found it after a save, but the ships were going in all directions. I understand SH3 doesn't save their paths. This means I have to finish up with a convoy or simply let it go before I save, usually the last option because I don't have time to play around the clock. It's frustrating when it's so hard to find convoys in GWX, too hard in my opinion. GWX focused too much on realism, killing much of the game play compared to stock SH3. And the save issues on top of it, wonder if I should remove GWX because of these problems.

08-05-08, 02:40 PM	#10
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I've noticed that the saved game gets corrupted more often if you play for long time, without saving/exiting. It might be a memory leak issue. Before I even knew the issue existed, I was saving my game at any condition (in the port, during the convoy attack, evading a DD...) and never had any problem. A month ago I returned to the game, installed GWX and started playing for long periods of time . I found out about the saving issue, and started to watch when I save, and yet I had a few CTDs after loading.

08-05-08, 04:32 PM	#11
Rommer69 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 72 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I agree with meduza, i save usually every time i have a chance to do something (approach a convoy, fire torpedos, once ships have sunk...) and many times i´m near ships, submerged or wathever thing that seems to be forbidden; only once i had a CTD and a minor bug i reported two days ago (Thread torpedo damage bug). i don´t remember how much time was i playing before these two saves.