Climate more urgent than economy, say voters

[Skybird]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen....ethicalliving

Nice and well, the one problem I have is that this attitude is somewhat irrational. It does not matter wether or not in one or two given countries or even in the whole EU green policies are taking over command - as long as India, China and other nations categorized by the UN as "developing countries" are officially allowed to ignore all environmental-saving policies and that way not only neutralize the small gains in europe in this regard, but increase the overall damage being done - despite europe's good-hearted self-sacrifice that it it hopes will serve as an example motivatin others. Actually, it motivates nobody to do like europe in parts wants to do.

There are many problemns these days which wanting to solve on a national or even block-wide level is completely useless. Global action is needed.

these developing nations will not chnage their demand to boost their industry as fast as possible just because naive europeans pray and kindly askl them to do so. they will not stop to do until they either suffer the painful consequences enough themselves, or are being forced to obey such policies by superior force. since the latter is extrmeely unlikely, the first altermnative it will be. And that is the reason why European'S warm-hearted well-meaning example-setting motivates me for not more than a bored yawning - more these european environmental policies will not acchieve for a forseeable ammount of time. Europeans will not even acchieve many of the ambitious goals they have lined out for themselves.

what is being achieved by this one-sided attitude is: the weakening of European competitiveness, and the strengthening of it's rivals' industries. Which results in greater social and econo9mic problems for europe, and environmental problems for the ecosphere.

Do not get me wrong, I am not against such environmental policies, by far not. I just know that implementing them as one-sided and locally as it is done right now will acchieve nothing: it does not produce positive consequences for the ecosphere, and it does more or less damage to Europe'S economic basis.

How to solve that dilemma? It is beyond our ability, maybe. We need to know until ALL nations feel the pain so intense that they voluntarily understand that they must change. we can only hope that then we still have enough time left. But that hope probably also is - irrational. I think we know it better by now: I do not see that there will be enough time left once the last nations on earth have learned the obvious lesson.

[STEED]

Dose not mean a thing to me.

Polls are rubbish and hold no water it's just another way of letting people let off some steam and they walk away thinking yea that showed them, yea sure it has.

What ever the subject matter it is if people are serious they should say sod the polls and take it up with those concerned but most people here just can not make the effort.

[SUBMAN1]

Polls showing more brainwashed people. Nice! But we already knew they existed, so what's new? Another waste of a thread!

Good thing they aren't in America.

-S