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Old 06-05-08, 07:13 PM   #1
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Default Still believe in Global Warming? This should fix that.

Now that I've read all your funny comments about the worlds scientists not agreeing with your sheeple views, it is time to dispel all your unfounded myths.

Here is the information that not 'one' single professional scientist has the ability to dispute. Al Gore, his spokespeople (all of whom are high school dropouts, or college dropouts I should point out), nor the IPCC can dispute.

This is why I am scared for the future of out planet. It has become not about reality, but about fantasy and control. Terrible.


Here is the video that says it all:

http://www.discovery.org/v/30


And if you want to follow along with the paper that can't be disputed, here is that too:

http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM600.pdf


Watch it, and Read it, and weep at your failings to think for yourself.

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Old 06-05-08, 07:46 PM   #2
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Just as a reminder of what makes up our atmosphere for people that have been fed that CO2 dominates our environment now. Our atmosphere is made up of the following:

78% nitrogen
21% oxygen
1% other gases (CO2 among them)

If you want to know what the real greenhouse gas is, it is actually H2O with CO2 not even being technically significant in comparison. Friggen idiot people of the world, wake up already!!!!

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Old 06-05-08, 07:52 PM   #3
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But how will we tax the "haves" to give to the "have-nots" .

What about global equality .

Subman1 you are missing the point.
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Oops.

You are right. I'll concede now.

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:hmm:
It's for the children:
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Now that I've read all your funny comments about the worlds scientists not agreeing with your sheeple views, it is time to dispel all your unfounded myths.

~snip~

Watch it, and Read it, and weep at your failings to think for yourself.

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Easy there fella :p

I appreciate the ire of your rhetoric, but the presentation needs some work - I almost didn't bother to watch your link because of it


I'm on the fence regarding 'global warming' and its alleged causes. Pollution is a bad thing. But there's so little scientific consensus regarding the observed phenomena of increasing co2 and temperature increases, I find much of either argument to be lacking the fullest knowledge such a subject requires.

More cynically and to the point, I resent the barefaced money spinning by various politicians who attempt to present reasons for tax increases as 'green issues'. The direct result of which means it costs me more to live now that the political bandwagon has leapt aboard this great justification for increased taxation.
A clear example of this is our own dearly regarded gordon brown and his car tax hikes.
In the UK Vehicle Excise Duty (car tax) is raised by the DVLA (driver vehicle and licensing agency) as a means of paying for the upkeep of the road networks, law enforcement regarding road use and various vehicle licensing standards. It is not a 'carbon offset tax' or any other kind of 'green' tax based solely on the levels of pollution produced by certain vehicles. Unfortunately this is exactly what gordon seems determined to turn it into and to that end he has backdated punitive measures, increasing the VED on certain models of vehicle, all the way back to vehicles produced in 2001.

I believe efforts to employ this kind of monetary penalty are justifiably circumspect on all new vehicles produced today, to an extent. After all, pollution is not a good thing, but it's not quite the nemesis some agendas present it as either.

There are plenty of government info-mercials, loaded with flashy sound-bites repeated argumentum ad nauseam in public by our leaders, that I'm not likely to forget the irritation their sophistry causes.
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I hear ya, but can't you tell that I am tired of it? I'm tired of the lies. Tired of the untruths. Tired of the false data that is presented in such a confused form, that the average guy need just buy it because they think they are not smart enough to understand it beyond that. That is what I am tired of.

That is why I keep harping on it. To knock some common sense into my fellow man. Something that is greatly lacking in this world.

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I hear ya, but can't you tell that I am tired of it? I'm tired of the lies. Tired of the untruths. Tired of the false data that is presented in such a confused form, that the average guy need just buy it because they think they are not smart enough to understand it beyond that. That is what I am tired of.
You mean you're not gonna vote republican this year ?
Be carefull now!

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It's for the children:
The Red Flag is flying over the White House and HRC is setting about putting the world to rights.
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Well... Communism isn't actually that bad of an idea. I mean, social equality, no discrimination, society is built by the arms and sweat of the working man and woman, etc. Really not that bad at all. People just have to be stupid and feck it up...
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Watch it, and Read it, and weep at your failings to think for yourself.

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Lets look at him a little. Conducts research on protein chemistry and on nutrition and predictive and preventive medicine. Yeah that gives him a good background in climatology.
Robinson is the senior author of the Oregon Petition
He's also a signatory of Dissent From Darwinism which comes from The Discovery Institute which is a U.S. think tank based in Seattle, Washington, best known for its advocacy of intelligent design and its Teach the Controversy campaign to teach creationist anti-evolution beliefs in United States public high school science courses.
He is currently the editor and publisher of the newsletter Access to Energy, which was originated by Petr Beckmann. Beckmann challenged Albert Einstein's theory of relativity and other accepted theories in modern physics.
Ok. I think this guy and his son are a little on the foil hat side but I'll look at some of his claims. I thought(could be wrong) tornadoes and hurricanes are on the rise and we are experiencing more drought not more rainfall.
Looks like you picked a real winner though.
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Of which Robinson are you speaking? There are two.

And even if, your comments would hold some water Bradclark if someone could dispute what was being said. Problem is, they can't, and neither can you.

Thanks for your time,

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You mean you're not gonna vote republican this year ?
I can't. Both choices are democrats.

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Of which Robinson are you speaking? There are two.

And even if, your comments would hold some water Bradclark if someone could dispute what was being said. Problem is, they can't, and neither can you.

Thanks for your time,

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Daddy Robinson but it really doesn't matter. The Tornadoes and hurricanes are entirely disputable. They've been rising and for the last ten years with 1998, 2003 and tornadoes for 2008 so far as record breaking years. Can't really find anything further back. So with the tin foil man and his champion causes, the Oregon petition being a joke and with everything people have shown in the past and "no" scientific organization on this planet supporting his arguments or yours and with a nutrition scientist being the only source you've ever been able to produce I'll rest my case.
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Daddy Robinson. The Tornadoes and hurricanes are entirely disputable. They've been rising and for the last ten years with 1998, 2003 and tornadoes for 2008 so far as record breaking years. Can't really find anything further back. So with the tin foil man and his champion causes, the Oregon petition being a joke and with everything people have shown in the past and "no" scientific organization on this planet supporting his arguments or yours and a nutrition scientist being the only source you've ever been able to produce I'll rest my case.
Your sources please? Complete bunk!

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PS. looked it up. La Nina is causing more this year than normal if it keeps up, but last year, we had the fewest number recorded in 30 years at 850. And this is even with our more advanced tracking equipment where we can find tornadoes that we would never even knew existed back in 1980's. Today, we track them all and have the capability to see all of them. FYI - 1200 is normal in a given year.
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