Radar Warning

ddiplock · 05-27-08, 08:41 PM

Its October 1942, and I now have the option to install a Radar Warning antennae onto my boat. Should I do this? And does this antennae also provide enemy destroyers with a means of detecting your boat?

FIREWALL · 05-27-08, 08:56 PM

Everybody has a different opinion on this.

I find it more immersive to have a watch crew warn me,

I also play GWX 2.1 AT 100% realism.

I like it as real as it can get.

richardphat · 05-27-08, 09:37 PM

Nah its totally useless. I have put and upgraded several radar and radar warning. It doesnt help alot. However if you can get sonar and doing submerged cruise it would be better!
This is only an opinion also dont do what i think

ddiplock · 05-27-08, 09:54 PM

Well, I haven't installed it yet, but if people's general opinion is that its a useless piece of kit, i probably wont bother installing it then.

Wreford-Brown · 05-27-08, 10:27 PM

The radar warning receiver is one of the most useful pieces of equipment - it's saved me a number of times (especially from aircraft) as it picks up enemy radar ages before they can detect me.

Radar, however, has never been useful - it's like an aircraft magnet!

von hally · 05-28-08, 10:55 AM

well mate wreford seems to like it...but others dont...matter of opinion really!!!

i hated it as i was kicked out of tc constantly with it even though the ships i was picking up never knew i was there

remember to save game before installing it as i dont think you can un-install the radar....and are left with it.

dont bother is my say......for what thats worth

KptLt Lindemann · 05-28-08, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

The radar warning receiver is one of the most useful pieces of equipment - it's saved me a number of times (especially from aircraft) as it picks up enemy radar ages before they can detect me.

Agreed, it has saved my butt numerous times. On the other hand, I wouldn't bother with radar.

HW3 · 05-28-08, 12:48 PM

I agree with KptLt Lindemann and Wreford-Brown. The radar warning receiver will warn you of active radar in the area long before you can spot the ship or plane using it. It gives you the time to make a decision on what you want to do and act on it.

ddiplock · 05-28-08, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KptLt Lindemann

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

The radar warning receiver is one of the most useful pieces of equipment - it's saved me a number of times (especially from aircraft) as it picks up enemy radar ages before they can detect me.

Agreed, it has saved my butt numerous times. On the other hand, I wouldn't bother with radar.

But, I suppose radar CAN have its advantages. See, I would use radar sparingly. Only turn it on every now and then for an hour or so, then kill it if nothing is found. Dive, stay down for a few days, surface, and do some more sweeps

surf_ten · 05-28-08, 02:16 PM

Even though I'm a noob I have found radar warning a life saver. I always get the upgrades when available.

Also, radar is so disappointing as a search tool. In the early part I rely on my watch to find targets. By 42 I rely heavily on the hydrophones as my primary search tool till the end of the war.

Bosje · 05-28-08, 02:37 PM

personally, i love radar warning (Oberleutnant Freiherr Beckman owes his life to that bit of kit)

Radar is another matter, I do like to spend the 250 renown though, its quite useful for getting some decent solutions in a rainstorm against single targets but hydrophone can do that too

and if you want a truly interesting and hair-raising battle... go inside a convoy in a rainstorm and use the radar on the surface to get the data for the solutions, fire the torpedoes and prepare for a horde of escorts coming down on you

Puster Bill · 05-28-08, 03:04 PM

Always get the radar warning receivers when they become available. They don't give away your position, and they give you good enough warning that you can survive.

Or, you could just not get them and be sunk by a Liberator that comes screaming out of the overcast, giving you no time to crash dive.

Your call.

kaarlo · 05-28-08, 05:31 PM

I have used the u-boat radar only once, when shadowing a convoy on the surface in really bad weather. I think that u-boat radars are useless.

RWR works much better, and helps you detect targets. When you meet a lot of radar beams in the ocean, you can be pretty sure it's a convoy. RWR can "spot" enemies at much longer ranges than your watch crew.

So, I allways buy the newest RWR, but radar only if I have much renown.

difool2 · 05-28-08, 06:13 PM

Radar is very clunky to use in this game. It very hard to stop it on a contact in time (because unlike the sonar wheel you can't go back in the opposite direction), making it ergonomically useless. The range is typically very short, much shorter than the RWR and sonar. And it gives away your position. I'd love to see a PPI mod, but other than what kaarlo said about bad weather I never use it.

BasilY · 05-30-08, 12:24 AM

I belong to the camp that find radar warning useful. When receiving a warning, order parascope depth and see if you get any sonar contact. If you hear anything, means you are near a ship. If not, a plane is coming. I will be spending the next hour under water.

Radar, on the other hand, is only useful if you want to die fighting off hordes of Airplanes.

05-27-08, 08:41 PM	#1
ddiplock Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 552 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Radar Warning Its October 1942, and I now have the option to install a Radar Warning antennae onto my boat. Should I do this? And does this antennae also provide enemy destroyers with a means of detecting your boat?

05-27-08, 08:56 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Everybody has a different opinion on this. I find it more immersive to have a watch crew warn me, I also play GWX 2.1 AT 100% realism. I like it as real as it can get. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-27-08, 10:27 PM	#5
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	The radar warning receiver is one of the most useful pieces of equipment - it's saved me a number of times (especially from aircraft) as it picks up enemy radar ages before they can detect me. Radar, however, has never been useful - it's like an aircraft magnet! __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

05-28-08, 10:55 AM	#6
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	well mate wreford seems to like it...but others dont...matter of opinion really!!! i hated it as i was kicked out of tc constantly with it even though the ships i was picking up never knew i was there remember to save game before installing it as i dont think you can un-install the radar....and are left with it. dont bother is my say......for what thats worth __________________ May God Have Mercy Upon My Enemies ..... Because I Wont.

05-28-08, 12:48 PM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	I agree with KptLt Lindemann and Wreford-Brown. The radar warning receiver will warn you of active radar in the area long before you can spot the ship or plane using it. It gives you the time to make a decision on what you want to do and act on it. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

05-27-08, 09:37 PM	#3
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Nah its totally useless. I have put and upgraded several radar and radar warning. It doesnt help alot. However if you can get sonar and doing submerged cruise it would be better! This is only an opinion also dont do what i think

05-27-08, 09:54 PM	#4
ddiplock Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 552 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Well, I haven't installed it yet, but if people's general opinion is that its a useless piece of kit, i probably wont bother installing it then.

05-28-08, 02:16 PM	#10
surf_ten Loader Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 90 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Even though I'm a noob I have found radar warning a life saver. I always get the upgrades when available. Also, radar is so disappointing as a search tool. In the early part I rely on my watch to find targets. By 42 I rely heavily on the hydrophones as my primary search tool till the end of the war.

05-28-08, 02:37 PM	#11
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	personally, i love radar warning (Oberleutnant Freiherr Beckman owes his life to that bit of kit) Radar is another matter, I do like to spend the 250 renown though, its quite useful for getting some decent solutions in a rainstorm against single targets but hydrophone can do that too and if you want a truly interesting and hair-raising battle... go inside a convoy in a rainstorm and use the radar on the surface to get the data for the solutions, fire the torpedoes and prepare for a horde of escorts coming down on you __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

05-28-08, 03:04 PM	#12
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Always get the radar warning receivers when they become available. They don't give away your position, and they give you good enough warning that you can survive. Or, you could just not get them and be sunk by a Liberator that comes screaming out of the overcast, giving you no time to crash dive. Your call. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

05-28-08, 05:31 PM	#13
kaarlo Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have used the u-boat radar only once, when shadowing a convoy on the surface in really bad weather. I think that u-boat radars are useless. RWR works much better, and helps you detect targets. When you meet a lot of radar beams in the ocean, you can be pretty sure it's a convoy. RWR can "spot" enemies at much longer ranges than your watch crew. So, I allways buy the newest RWR, but radar only if I have much renown. __________________ The instrument: U-3025, XXI

05-28-08, 06:13 PM	#14
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Radar is very clunky to use in this game. It very hard to stop it on a contact in time (because unlike the sonar wheel you can't go back in the opposite direction), making it ergonomically useless. The range is typically very short, much shorter than the RWR and sonar. And it gives away your position. I'd love to see a PPI mod, but other than what kaarlo said about bad weather I never use it.

05-30-08, 12:24 AM	#15
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I belong to the camp that find radar warning useful. When receiving a warning, order parascope depth and see if you get any sonar contact. If you hear anything, means you are near a ship. If not, a plane is coming. I will be spending the next hour under water. Radar, on the other hand, is only useful if you want to die fighting off hordes of Airplanes.