T I (g7a)

richardphat · 05-20-08, 08:50 PM

As the topic indicates, this thread is based on gas torpedo. We all know its disadvantage of leaving a trail of bubble. However we can switch the speed while launching it. However, using a torpedo would be very hard to play with it. The moment the ship spot the torpedo, it can turn, and so we can miss the vital spot of the ship! So do you think switching the torpedo speed would affect the results???

Pablo · 05-20-08, 09:19 PM

Hi!

I usually use electric torpedoes, but when I'm running low on those I will move steam-powered torpedoes from on-deck storage into the torpedo rooms. Once I'm using the steam torpedoes then I try to use them at night, when ships cannot see the bubble trail.

I shoot steam torpedoes at maximum speed from minimum range, so if the ship does see the torpedo then the ship does not have as much time to react.

Pablo

Teh_Diplomat · 05-21-08, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Hi!

I usually use electric torpedoes, but when I'm running low on those I will move steam-powered torpedoes from on-deck storage into the torpedo rooms. Once I'm using the steam torpedoes then I try to use them at night, when ships cannot see the bubble trail.

I shoot steam torpedoes at maximum speed from minimum range, so if the ship does see the torpedo then the ship does not have as much time to react.

Pablo

Agreed, I only fire steam powered eels at night or within 700m at fast (45kts) as they can not avoid a center shot under the keel unless it's faulty.

popcorn2721 · 05-21-08, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Hi!

I shoot steam torpedoes at maximum speed from minimum range, so if the ship does see the torpedo then the ship does not have as much time to react.

Pablo

Im going to be the oddball and say that so far, I prefer the TIs over the TII. Ive had the TIIs detonate in the water before they actually hit the target vessel. This alerted the whole taskforce to my presence. Ive also run into 3 TIIs being bad or exploding when I was making a highspeed run on a convoy. Both of these happened back while I was playing the "real uboat mod v1.4"... since then Ive had a problem with trusting them.

aj906 · 05-21-08, 07:52 AM

I always try and have a mix. The TII's I find are more prone to premature detonation - especially in extreme seegang conditions. I try and load 50/50 in my fore tubes so I have a choice. My stern tubes are always with the TII's so a sneaky parting shot at Angry Ivan are almost impossible to detect at any time of the day or night.

predavolk · 05-21-08, 08:11 AM

I've almost never had an ambushed ship dodge a steam torpedo. That's very hard to do in real life. The bigger problem is that it leaves a trail for any escort to follow back. I've used T1s for 80% of my 600,000 tons of sinkings, and only use TIIs when the TIs are out or when I'm attacking a convoy and every bit of stealth helps. In my IXB I load 60/40 I/II, with Tubes 1,3,&5 Type Is, and Tubes 2,4,&6 Type IIs. No complaints about that so far!

STEED · 05-21-08, 09:52 AM

From 39 to early 41 I use the T1 day or night, mid 41 on wards I only use them at night. As for the T2 I only use them in the stern tubes from 41 on wards with a mix of T1's.

danurve · 05-21-08, 11:50 AM

If you can get a good aob T-II on impact work well, usually.
Imo the DD/DE's can speed up or slow down with an unrealistic advantage. But you can try a spreadshot with T-1's on a narrow angle.

ddiplock · 05-21-08, 02:48 PM

I have my entire torpedo loadout as electrics. I hate torpedos leaving wakes on the way to the target, so I stick with the stealthy eleccies

Jimbuna · 05-21-08, 03:02 PM

After Feb 41 TII only.

Prior to that TI (obviously) but shoot from 1500 metres or less then the merchants have minimal time to avoid

Murr44 · 05-21-08, 05:04 PM

I have been using a 50/50 mix of TI's & II's in the fore tubes and 2/3 TI's in the stern tube(s). During daylight hours I'll launch a TII if the weather is calm. If I've hit the target and a second shot is necessary, then I'll use a TI as I've already hit the target and surprise is no longer an issue. I've found that TI's can be used as an initial shot in rough weather conditions in daylight as the wake is at least partially obscured by the waves & foam. Prior to '41 I tend to favour impact fuses over magnetic ones because of the premature detonation issue.

richardphat · 05-21-08, 06:45 PM

Yup launching T1 at fog weather is really helpful!

05-20-08, 08:50 PM	#1
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	T I (g7a) As the topic indicates, this thread is based on gas torpedo. We all know its disadvantage of leaving a trail of bubble. However we can switch the speed while launching it. However, using a torpedo would be very hard to play with it. The moment the ship spot the torpedo, it can turn, and so we can miss the vital spot of the ship! So do you think switching the torpedo speed would affect the results???

05-20-08, 09:19 PM	#2
Pablo Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Hi! I usually use electric torpedoes, but when I'm running low on those I will move steam-powered torpedoes from on-deck storage into the torpedo rooms. Once I'm using the steam torpedoes then I try to use them at night, when ships cannot see the bubble trail. I shoot steam torpedoes at maximum speed from minimum range, so if the ship does see the torpedo then the ship does not have as much time to react. Pablo __________________ "...far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt, speech before the Hamilton Club, Chicago, April 10, 1899

05-21-08, 09:52 AM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	From 39 to early 41 I use the T1 day or night, mid 41 on wards I only use them at night. As for the T2 I only use them in the stern tubes from 41 on wards with a mix of T1's. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-21-08, 11:50 AM	#8
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	If you can get a good aob T-II on impact work well, usually. Imo the DD/DE's can speed up or slow down with an unrealistic advantage. But you can try a spreadshot with T-1's on a narrow angle. __________________

05-21-08, 03:02 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	After Feb 41 TII only. Prior to that TI (obviously) but shoot from 1500 metres or less then the merchants have minimal time to avoid __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-21-08, 07:52 AM	#5
aj906 Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 107 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I always try and have a mix. The TII's I find are more prone to premature detonation - especially in extreme seegang conditions. I try and load 50/50 in my fore tubes so I have a choice. My stern tubes are always with the TII's so a sneaky parting shot at Angry Ivan are almost impossible to detect at any time of the day or night.

05-21-08, 08:11 AM	#6
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've almost never had an ambushed ship dodge a steam torpedo. That's very hard to do in real life. The bigger problem is that it leaves a trail for any escort to follow back. I've used T1s for 80% of my 600,000 tons of sinkings, and only use TIIs when the TIs are out or when I'm attacking a convoy and every bit of stealth helps. In my IXB I load 60/40 I/II, with Tubes 1,3,&5 Type Is, and Tubes 2,4,&6 Type IIs. No complaints about that so far!

05-21-08, 02:48 PM	#9
ddiplock Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 552 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I have my entire torpedo loadout as electrics. I hate torpedos leaving wakes on the way to the target, so I stick with the stealthy eleccies

05-21-08, 05:04 PM	#11
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I have been using a 50/50 mix of TI's & II's in the fore tubes and 2/3 TI's in the stern tube(s). During daylight hours I'll launch a TII if the weather is calm. If I've hit the target and a second shot is necessary, then I'll use a TI as I've already hit the target and surprise is no longer an issue. I've found that TI's can be used as an initial shot in rough weather conditions in daylight as the wake is at least partially obscured by the waves & foam. Prior to '41 I tend to favour impact fuses over magnetic ones because of the premature detonation issue.

05-21-08, 06:45 PM	#12
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Yup launching T1 at fog weather is really helpful!