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Old 05-29-08, 04:09 AM   #1
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http://www.carbonbelchday.com/

Forgive the aggressive title, but what else to say about this non-brainer? This stunt really does not motivate not to start a rant on America. I know that it is only a part of the population, nevertheless the ammount of stupidity and unscrupellousness in this campaign is breathtaking. If the european discussion on energy saving light bulbs I see as hysteric and hectic actionism missing the centre of the problem, then this Belch Day is straightout braindead, and compares to the last uncontrolled convulsions of a dead body whose head has been cut off, while the dead face is still grinning.

Why I said unscrupellousness? Because by random chance, and no intention of course, it is taking place at the same day congress will have a main debate about the Climate Security Act.

Once again lobbies and brutal egoists who do not mind for a world and generations that need to live on after they themselves have died, have flexed their muscles and spend a lot of money to start a campaign to influence public opinion and people's minds. As the president of this campaign put it: in order to free their minds from the guilt Al Gore tried to harass their lives with.

Well, that Al Gore is an evil wacko, as we all know, right!? Compared to him, George Bush is a saint.

Kierkegaard once wrote: "It happened that a fire broke out backstage at a theater. The clown came out to inform the public. They thought it was just a jest and applauded. He repeated his warning, they shouted even louder. So I think the world will come to an end amid general applause from all the wits, who believe that it is a joke.” - CO2 Belch Day, and the way climate debates are being distorted, are perfect illustrations for how damn right Kierkegaard was.

I think stupidity is a highly infectous desease, and patients should be put under strict quarantine.
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Old 05-29-08, 05:22 AM   #2
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First of all, the word is unscrupulous.

Second Grassfire.org is an internet based "petition" site that most people rightfully have never heard of. They are stationed out of Chesapeake, VA. They have been active for less than six years.

Third, clearly the Carbon Belch Day is meant as a satire with the covert intent to collect your name and address for the Grassfire mailing list. No intelligent person reading the Carbon Belch Day pages would ever confuse this with anything legitimate.

Must be a slow news day for this to get any attention
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Old 05-29-08, 05:54 AM   #3
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A satire only, you say? They claim to have collected 100.000 signatures so far (they claim) - in a shorter ammount of time than Al Gore collected a comparable ammount of signatures for some other counter-petition on the issue that he had started. I was aware of grassfire.org, and checked them out before posting (small print on the Belch Day site, at the bottom), it gave me a very bad impression of them. However, I fail to see this Belch Day being satire only. Somebody meant it serious, I think, and tries to twist some minds.

I stumbled of grassire twice of three times before, to, so I suppose the site is not so totally unknown at all, but is embedded into a greater context of politcal camp fights and agendas.
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Some people wouldn't know satire if it hit them over the head with a 2x4. I'm just sayin'...
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And what would 100,000 internet "signatures" do?

Those and $5.00 may get you a starbucks.

I follow political issues and polls pretty closely. None of them has ever used Grassfire.org as a source nor would I imagine they would.

They could get 100,000,000 internet "signatures" and it still would not mean much.

I really can't see any Senator changing the way he or she will vote based on what Grassfire.org says.

They simply are not that important.
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I saw it on the internet, so it must be true.
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I DO FIND THE TITLE OFFENSIVE.
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I DO FIND THE TITLE OFFENSIVE.
Surely you are a little more thick-skinned than that?

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The site looks like satire to me. Not something to kick up dust about anyway.
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I DO FIND THE TITLE OFFENSIVE.
Surely you are a little more thick-skinned than that?

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The site looks like satire to me. Not something to kick up dust about anyway.
I stand by my post.
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Post title doesn't offend me. I have had far worse said to me, up into my face. I admit, the initial shock is a bit hard to swallow. I grew used to it, but i also grew bitter. Countries like Korea, Bosnia, and other assorted places , can all rot in hell and become victims of genocide for all i care. Not that it would ever happen, but seeing Korea being overun by the DPRK would bring a smile to my face. I can see it now, "where are the American's?! Why aren't they helping us!!" That thought makes me grin ear to ear when i think of all the schitt i've had flung into my face.
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I DO FIND THE TITLE OFFENSIVE.
Surely you are a little more thick-skinned than that?

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The site looks like satire to me. Not something to kick up dust about anyway.
I stand by my post.
If it said the UK Letum, you'd be all over it. Thick skin my you know what....

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Some people wouldn't know satire if it hit them over the head with a 2x4. I'm just sayin'...
Hahahahahaha! Now that was funny! I concur August!

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Let me clarify.

It was the title not, the content.
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Just did a little checking - the site is owned by someone in Scottsdale Arizona, so yes, it is American in case anyone cares.

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If it said the UK Letum, you'd be all over it. Thick skin my you know what....

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Are you kidding?
Like so many, I'm appalled by the levels of stupid in the administration and occupants
of the UK.

We may be far from the worst, but that doesn't make it any better.

*edit*
Whilst I don't think the topic title is "offensive", I do think it is a little ironic to use the
word "stupid" in such a stupid way. Less than tactful. It detracts from the content
of the topic.
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