Will McCain use the Wright issue against Obama - don't bet on it.

Von Tonner · 05-11-08, 04:41 AM

I do not think McCain will relish using the Wright saga in his up coming duel with Obama in their run for the White House The counter attack from Obama could be just as devastating - if not more so, as McCain has not sought to distance himself from these two members of the cloth but actively sought their support.

"Presidential candidate John McCain’s pastor problems are bubbling up again, with Reverend John Hagee, whose support and endorsement McCain has actively sought, reversing last week’s retraction of remarks he made in 2006 blaming the destruction of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina on a planned gay pride parade.
MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann pointed out Hagee’s reversal and also noted that McCain recently had a photo op at a plaque honoring New York firefighters who died on 9/11. Another McCain supporter, the late Reverend Jerry Falwell, famously blamed 9/11 on “the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays” and threatened that it could happen again if “God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.”
Olbermann then asked Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson to comment on how McCain is pulling off “one of the great political magic tricks of all time” by making these questionable connections disappear.
Robinson agreed that Hagee “is a complete lunatic [who] makes Jeremiah Wright sound fairly mainstream, yet McCain seems to get away with this.”
“I don’t see how how McCain … can continue to pretend that Hagee’s not out there,” Robinson continued. “There is a kind of demagoguery gap … Republicans are much better at demogoguing these issues than Democrats are. … Democrats remain tethered to things like objective fact and fairness. But by any standard, there are parallels here that are going to have to be addressed.”
“What is the difference in how McCain and Obama are seen that puts Reverend Wright on the front page and Reverend Hagee nowhere at all?” Olbermann asked. “Is it as simple as black and white?”
Robinson explained that research has shown that “members of one group tend to look at members of a different group and think they have more in common with each other than they necessarily do. … People look at these two black guys, a pastor and Obama, and tend to think they have more in common.”

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1013

AVGWarhawk · 05-11-08, 06:32 AM

The mud slinging will continue. Many in power make people go away. I blame Katrina on the weather. How could I not? I saw the radar images. I'm sure in do time when the media really turns their attention to McCain(because the need Hillary to get out of the way first) all of his skeletons will be walking out of his closet.

TheSatyr · 05-12-08, 01:29 AM

The problem Obama is going to have,is that he may end up in jail before November. Rezko's trial is about to start,and if he "names names" than Obama is history.

Zachstar · 05-12-08, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr

The problem Obama is going to have,is that he may end up in jail before November. Rezko's trial is about to start,and if he "names names" than Obama is history.

That is so wrong I can't help but laugh.

AVGWarhawk · 05-12-08, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr

The problem Obama is going to have,is that he may end up in jail before November. Rezko's trial is about to start,and if he "names names" than Obama is history.

That is so wrong I can't help but laugh.

Well, yes and no. Obama is apparenty involved with Rezko in one form or another. It could be something that stops his campaign. It could be something as simple as just buying a house from the guy. Who knows. I suspect it is not much.

DAB · 05-12-08, 06:50 AM

This is just hysterical. This invasion of the private lives of the candidates, the overt spinning of every singe day of their lives and the intollerence of the smallest mistake...

...to an outsider looking in its so farsical!

And yet despite all of that... once all those who once sat in the congrigation of a less then saintly priest, and those who once questioned whether America could learn something from (eg) Canada's welfare programme, and those who happened to be in the same country as Osama Bin Ladin 20 years ago have all been eliminated... your left with

GW Bush?
Bill Clinton?

... and you wonder why the outside world s******s occasionally at the US democratic system :rotfl:

TDK1044 · 05-12-08, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr

The problem Obama is going to have,is that he may end up in jail before November. Rezko's trial is about to start,and if he "names names" than Obama is history.

Obama was on the grassy knoll in 63 too. He went on to develop Starforce.

Platapus · 05-12-08, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

Obama was on the grassy knoll in 63 too. He went on to develop Starforce.

I KNEW it!! It all makes perfect sense.

And you notice that at no time during Obama's campaign does he ever mention where he was when RFK was shot. Something to hide Mr. Obama?

TDK1044 · 05-12-08, 06:14 PM

I suspect that Hillary's plan is to do just enough damage to Obama so that he loses the presidential election to McCain, and then when Mccain is 76 years old in 4 years time, horrible Hillary will crawl out from under her stone to challenge him.

Tchocky · 05-12-08, 08:08 AM

Number one, 3jane?

Congrats on 1k posts, by the way

05-11-08, 04:41 AM	#1
Von Tonner Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 711 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Will McCain use the Wright issue against Obama - don't bet on it. I do not think McCain will relish using the Wright saga in his up coming duel with Obama in their run for the White House The counter attack from Obama could be just as devastating - if not more so, as McCain has not sought to distance himself from these two members of the cloth but actively sought their support. "Presidential candidate John McCain’s pastor problems are bubbling up again, with Reverend John Hagee, whose support and endorsement McCain has actively sought, reversing last week’s retraction of remarks he made in 2006 blaming the destruction of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina on a planned gay pride parade. MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann pointed out Hagee’s reversal and also noted that McCain recently had a photo op at a plaque honoring New York firefighters who died on 9/11. Another McCain supporter, the late Reverend Jerry Falwell, famously blamed 9/11 on “the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays” and threatened that it could happen again if “God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.” Olbermann then asked Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson to comment on how McCain is pulling off “one of the great political magic tricks of all time” by making these questionable connections disappear. Robinson agreed that Hagee “is a complete lunatic [who] makes Jeremiah Wright sound fairly mainstream, yet McCain seems to get away with this.” “I don’t see how how McCain … can continue to pretend that Hagee’s not out there,” Robinson continued. “There is a kind of demagoguery gap … Republicans are much better at demogoguing these issues than Democrats are. … Democrats remain tethered to things like objective fact and fairness. But by any standard, there are parallels here that are going to have to be addressed.” “What is the difference in how McCain and Obama are seen that puts Reverend Wright on the front page and Reverend Hagee nowhere at all?” Olbermann asked. “Is it as simple as black and white?” Robinson explained that research has shown that “members of one group tend to look at members of a different group and think they have more in common with each other than they necessarily do. … People look at these two black guys, a pastor and Obama, and tend to think they have more in common.” http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1013

05-11-08, 06:32 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The mud slinging will continue. Many in power make people go away. I blame Katrina on the weather. How could I not? I saw the radar images. I'm sure in do time when the media really turns their attention to McCain(because the need Hillary to get out of the way first) all of his skeletons will be walking out of his closet. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-12-08, 06:50 AM	#6
DAB Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 263 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	This is just hysterical. This invasion of the private lives of the candidates, the overt spinning of every singe day of their lives and the intollerence of the smallest mistake... ...to an outsider looking in its so farsical! And yet despite all of that... once all those who once sat in the congrigation of a less then saintly priest, and those who once questioned whether America could learn something from (eg) Canada's welfare programme, and those who happened to be in the same country as Osama Bin Ladin 20 years ago have all been eliminated... your left with GW Bush? Bill Clinton? ... and you wonder why the outside world s******s occasionally at the US democratic system :rotfl: __________________ ...snorting / snorkelling after several years of silent running.

05-12-08, 08:08 AM	#10
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Number one, 3jane? Congrats on 1k posts, by the way __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

05-12-08, 01:29 AM	#3
TheSatyr Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 545 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The problem Obama is going to have,is that he may end up in jail before November. Rezko's trial is about to start,and if he "names names" than Obama is history.

05-12-08, 06:14 PM	#9
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I suspect that Hillary's plan is to do just enough damage to Obama so that he loses the presidential election to McCain, and then when Mccain is 76 years old in 4 years time, horrible Hillary will crawl out from under her stone to challenge him.