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Old 04-23-08, 10:37 AM   #1
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Default Statistic on what Americans think of Global Warming

Good thing I am in the majority. I was wondering how many whackos believing in man as the problem were in this country. Seems only a third or less are whacked.

I especially like Greenpeace's founders comments. He hits the head on the nail, and he is also in a position to know:

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No wonder Greenpeace's co-founder Patrick Moore wrote recently that "the environmental movement I helped found has lost its objectivity, morality and humanity." Moore frowns on using the term "environmental" for the Global Warming campaigners. I can see his point.

Perhaps it's time hear from "traditional" environmentalism for a change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?
Full article here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04..._warming_yawn/

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Old 04-23-08, 10:45 AM   #2
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
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Old 04-23-08, 10:46 AM   #3
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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Old 04-23-08, 10:46 AM   #4
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Perhaps it's time hear from "traditional" environmentalism for a change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?
Agreed 100% on this. Mind you, I think it still entails curbing emissions - cars etc. don't only produce carbon - but I am tired of this global warming thing becoming the only environmental issue on the table. There are more overarching concerns at hand.
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Old 04-23-08, 10:47 AM   #5
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Your point being?

Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.

At least in America, we still have our brains.

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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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Agreed 100% on this. Mind you, I think it still entails curbing emissions - cars etc. don't only produce carbon - but I am tired of this global warming thing becoming the only environmental issue on the table. There are more overarching concerns at hand.
Best way to put it right there -
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Controversy creation, and all that.
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We're talking about the same country that voted for President George W. Monkey Boy not once, but twice.
For lack of a better alternative. And, if you look at his track record, its not that bad.

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Lack of a better alternative my ass, Gore schooled Bush on every point during the pre election policy debates, but Americans didn't vote for him because he sounded "arrogant" while he was wiping the floor with GW. Americans have a cultural AVERSION to intellectuals which they've proven over and over again.

Oh yes, i'm sure historians will look at George's track record and totally forget the parts about ignoring the Bill of Rights, inflating the dollar into uselessness, and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.
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I read a very interesting study that looked at sunspots and other solar activity and the effect that such activity had on the Earth's climate. Many climatic anonalies related to GW were explained and correlated in that study.

Common sense tells us that we should all work at caring more about our planet and our impact on it, but much of the GW argument is politically motivated nonsense in my view.
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inflating the dollar into uselessness,
Care to explain what Bush did to inflate the dollar?
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The scientific study of onloy a handful of scientists known for hyping garbage? Sure.
Scientists hyping? That's new to me. Scientists don't hype, the media does. And only a handful? If thousands upon thousands of scientists are 'only a handful', you're one hard person to impress.

And either way, Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
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Lack of a better alternative my ass, Gore schooled Bush on every point during the pre election policy debates, but Americans didn't vote for him because he sounded "arrogant" while he was wiping the floor with GW. Americans have a cultural AVERSION to intellectuals which they've proven over and over again.
Gore? Are you serious? He is the biggest idiot to ever run for Pres! This whole thread wouldn't even be here if he were a little smarter. Yes, maybe their are idiots in AMerica - approximately 1/3rd of them believe Gore's BS.

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Oh yes, i'm sure historians will look at George's track record and totally forget the parts about ignoring the Bill of Rights, inflating the dollar into uselessness, and expanding the war on terror into a pointlessly protracted campaign when he had Bin Laden right at his fingertips.
Bill of rights - I'm a little in your camp on that one. This is mainly due to Congresses failure in keeping with checks and balances however.

Dollar - this is great news in my book. Stopped outsourcing dead in its tracks. There is more behind this than you seem to realize. Good place for you to start is to study up on why China keeps its currency artificially low.

Bin Laden at his finger tips? When? SHow me something on that.

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Bin Laden at his finger tips? When? SHow me something on that.

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I'm guessing that he is referring to the Tora Bora situation in the early stages of the Afghan war.
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Scientists hyping? That's new to me. Scientists don't hype, the media does. And only a handful? If thousands upon thousands of scientists are 'only a handful', you're one hard person to impress.
Better check again. And for every scientist saying anything pro global warming, you have 2 saying they are incorrect. What you have is a couple scientists who see something and say it must be man made, and then they get excited and hype it. THe media hears them, and hypes it even further. Regardless, global warming has been happening since the day we left our mini ice age in the 1800's. Now we are headed back down hill towards another ice age. Imagine that!

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And either way, Scientific study is not a matter for voting on, I heard somewhere that a sizeable number of Americans believe in creationism.
Believe what you want on creationism, since you can't explain some things any other way - science has no explanation when it even comes to human kindness.

As for scientific study - that works only when all scientists are in agreement, so you can flush that argument down the toilet too.

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