GWX2.1-Slow 1st Patrol Load Time. Normal?

sharkbit · 04-24-08, 08:26 AM

I need some advice on if this is normal or not.

Background:
I've been playing stock SH3 patched to 1.4b for a couple of weeks. I've done 4 patrols during my career. I decided to add GWX2.1 to my game yesterday. So I got home yesterday and downloaded all of the GWX2.0 files and installed them with no problem and then added the GWX2.1 files and installed them with no problem.
Rebooted the computer and everything seemed fine. I went to the tutorial and everthing worked-

.

I go to my career page, open my last patrol-(I was in port-I waited till my last patrol was finished before I installed the expansion) and the career begins to load but the red load bar stops when it is about 90% done. I wait and nothing happens. My patience ran out and I rebooted. I thought maybe I need start a new career, which is fine. I was only 4 patrols into this one and I have no heartache starting over. I deleted all of my previous saves and career and started a new career from Kiel.
Load for my first patrol and the same thing happens.

I looked in the user guide and it talk about long load times, but I was thinking it maybe meant on initial load when opening the game but I was out of time(had to pick up the kiddies) so things would have to wait until later.

That night, I thought I would just start from scratch. I totally removed all of my silent hunter files and GWX files from my computer. Did a fresh install of the game, rebooted, installed GWX2.0, rebooted, installed GWX2.1, rebooted, opened up the game, started a new career, and....
Same damn thing-load bar gets to about 90% and stops.

This time though, my patience was a little longer and just when I was ready to go beat the dog

, I get the opening message and I'm at the dock in Kiel.

So, I started my first patrol in a IIA from Kiel on August 1.

I thought I saw a post not long ago about a similar problem but haven't been able to find it so I thought I'd ask....

Is this normal for starting a patrol with GWX2.1?
And, will this get better during a patrol or not?
Or, am I just condemned to a long load time every time I load a saved game?

Sorry for the rambling and thanks in advance for any advice that anyone can give me.

Tango589 · 04-24-08, 08:38 AM

Hey Sharkbit

The long loading times happen because GWX 2.1 has so much more information than stock+1.4b to load onto your computer that it can take a fair time. I don't know what your computer's specs are but 2 GB of of ram are recommended to get the best out of your computer.

Hopefully someone with a bit more technical know-how will be along soon so give any more advice.

Ps.

Welcome to subsim and Bdu says 'Sink them all'!

McHibbins · 04-24-08, 08:42 AM

Merged Campaign ? Black Sea Campaign ? Indian Ocean Campaign ?
If you activate even one of these mods loading times will be much longer...also the other informations and adds of GWX will need their time.

danlisa · 04-24-08, 08:43 AM

Yes, it's completely normal due to the amount of addtional content that needs to load.

Found it!.....

Stock 1.4b:
Air Units = 13
Sea Units = 49
U-Boats+Subs = 8
SCR Campaign = 19249 lines
RND Campaign = 402082 lines
LND Campaign = 11968 lines
Total = 433299

GWX 2.0: (not 2.1)
Air Units = 40
Sea Units = 182
U-Boats+Subs = 24
SCR Campaign = 486859 lines
RND Campaign = 629050 lines
LND Campaign = 53925 lines
Total = 1169834

Thats a 169.98% increase in campaign scripting alone. Don't forget, when you click START, all the items above are loaded each & every time into your PC's memory.

Tango589 · 04-24-08, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHibbins

Merged Campaign ? Black Sea Campaign ? Indian Ocean Campaign ?
If you activate even one of these mods loading times will be much longer...also the other informations and adds of GWX will need their time.

Whoops! Forgot to mention those extra campaigns.

danlisa · 04-24-08, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHibbins

Merged Campaign ? Black Sea Campaign ? Indian Ocean Campaign ?
If you activate even one of these mods loading times will be much longer...also the other informations and adds of GWX will need their time.

Actually, Mr McHibbins

The only one that will increase load time is the Merged Campaign.

All the other reduce load times and they are specific locale mods.

sharkbit · 04-24-08, 09:06 AM

:hmm: So, I gather from these first replies that this is normal. Makes me feel a lot better. I'm looking forward to continuing on.

I do not have any of the other campaigns mentioned above enabled...I think.
Don't you enable them with the JGMES thingy that is installed with GWX2?

I have 1GB of RAM on my computer. I just doubled the RAM from 512 last week. There's no way I'd be able to convince my wife that we need more now.

Thanks for the help.

McHibbins · 04-24-08, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHibbins

Merged Campaign ? Black Sea Campaign ? Indian Ocean Campaign ?
If you activate even one of these mods loading times will be much longer...also the other informations and adds of GWX will need their time.

Actually, Mr McHibbins

The only one that will increase load time is the Merged Campaign.

All the other reduce load times and they are specific locale mods.

Uuuups...jepp....sry, my mistake

danlisa · 04-24-08, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

I have 1GB of RAM on my computer. I just doubled the RAM from 512 last week. There's no way I'd be able to convince my wife that we need more now.

Thanks for the help.

Psst, a good pair of ladies shoes are the same price as a 1 GB ram stick.

There's ways around every hurdle.

sharkbit · 04-24-08, 09:17 AM

[quote=danlisa
Psst, a good pair of ladies shoes are the same price as a 1 GB ram stick.

There's ways around every hurdle.[/quote]

Mama's birthday is coming up in June. I may be able to butter her up some then with my 43 year old boyish charm and good looks.

Sailor Steve · 04-24-08, 09:56 AM

Probably better to stick to unadulterated begging.

Captain Nemo · 04-24-08, 10:10 AM

If it's any consolation, I have 1 gig of memory like you and use GWX 2.1 with the merged campaign applied and it takes about 6-7 minutes for my saves to load up.

Nemo

Jimbuna · 04-24-08, 11:34 AM

Be careful how you walk in those high heels

@Captain Nemo...1GB should be fine, but 2GB is actually better than twice as good

Murr44 · 04-24-08, 11:48 AM

I have 4GB on my pc & I find that using the Lite Harbour Traffic Mod that came with GWX 2.0 does help speed load times a little. It's a great option if sometimes, you don't want to deal with a lot of harbour traffic. I'm just a wee bit impatient.

...

VIICDriver · 04-26-08, 06:38 AM

2GB here and mine hangs for some time at the 90% red bar mark as well. Thats the time I go grab a cup of coffee and by the time I'm back I'm usually loaded up listening to the music playing, watching the girls throw flowers and the guy who for whatever reason cannot get that motorcycle to kick start!

It IS a little longer with GWX 2.0/2.1 than vanilla 1.4b...small sacrifice.

Chuck

04-24-08, 08:26 AM	#1
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	GWX2.1-Slow 1st Patrol Load Time. Normal? I need some advice on if this is normal or not. Background: I've been playing stock SH3 patched to 1.4b for a couple of weeks. I've done 4 patrols during my career. I decided to add GWX2.1 to my game yesterday. So I got home yesterday and downloaded all of the GWX2.0 files and installed them with no problem and then added the GWX2.1 files and installed them with no problem. Rebooted the computer and everything seemed fine. I went to the tutorial and everthing worked- . I go to my career page, open my last patrol-(I was in port-I waited till my last patrol was finished before I installed the expansion) and the career begins to load but the red load bar stops when it is about 90% done. I wait and nothing happens. My patience ran out and I rebooted. I thought maybe I need start a new career, which is fine. I was only 4 patrols into this one and I have no heartache starting over. I deleted all of my previous saves and career and started a new career from Kiel. Load for my first patrol and the same thing happens. I looked in the user guide and it talk about long load times, but I was thinking it maybe meant on initial load when opening the game but I was out of time(had to pick up the kiddies) so things would have to wait until later. That night, I thought I would just start from scratch. I totally removed all of my silent hunter files and GWX files from my computer. Did a fresh install of the game, rebooted, installed GWX2.0, rebooted, installed GWX2.1, rebooted, opened up the game, started a new career, and.... Same damn thing-load bar gets to about 90% and stops. This time though, my patience was a little longer and just when I was ready to go beat the dog , I get the opening message and I'm at the dock in Kiel. So, I started my first patrol in a IIA from Kiel on August 1. I thought I saw a post not long ago about a similar problem but haven't been able to find it so I thought I'd ask.... Is this normal for starting a patrol with GWX2.1? And, will this get better during a patrol or not? Or, am I just condemned to a long load time every time I load a saved game? Sorry for the rambling and thanks in advance for any advice that anyone can give me.

04-24-08, 08:38 AM	#2
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	Hey Sharkbit The long loading times happen because GWX 2.1 has so much more information than stock+1.4b to load onto your computer that it can take a fair time. I don't know what your computer's specs are but 2 GB of of ram are recommended to get the best out of your computer. Hopefully someone with a bit more technical know-how will be along soon so give any more advice. Ps. Welcome to subsim and Bdu says 'Sink them all'! __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

04-24-08, 08:42 AM	#3
McHibbins Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Good old Germany Posts: 739 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Merged Campaign ? Black Sea Campaign ? Indian Ocean Campaign ? If you activate even one of these mods loading times will be much longer...also the other informations and adds of GWX will need their time. __________________

04-24-08, 08:43 AM	#4
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Yes, it's completely normal due to the amount of addtional content that needs to load. Found it!..... Stock 1.4b: Air Units = 13 Sea Units = 49 U-Boats+Subs = 8 SCR Campaign = 19249 lines RND Campaign = 402082 lines LND Campaign = 11968 lines Total = 433299 GWX 2.0: (not 2.1) Air Units = 40 Sea Units = 182 U-Boats+Subs = 24 SCR Campaign = 486859 lines RND Campaign = 629050 lines LND Campaign = 53925 lines Total = 1169834 Thats a 169.98% increase in campaign scripting alone. Don't forget, when you click START, all the items above are loaded each & every time into your PC's memory. __________________

04-24-08, 09:56 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Probably better to stick to unadulterated begging. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-24-08, 09:06 AM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	:hmm: So, I gather from these first replies that this is normal. Makes me feel a lot better. I'm looking forward to continuing on. I do not have any of the other campaigns mentioned above enabled...I think. Don't you enable them with the JGMES thingy that is installed with GWX2? I have 1GB of RAM on my computer. I just doubled the RAM from 512 last week. There's no way I'd be able to convince my wife that we need more now. Thanks for the help.

04-24-08, 09:17 AM	#10
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	[quote=danlisa Psst, a good pair of ladies shoes are the same price as a 1 GB ram stick. There's ways around every hurdle.[/quote] Mama's birthday is coming up in June. I may be able to butter her up some then with my 43 year old boyish charm and good looks.

04-24-08, 10:10 AM	#12
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	If it's any consolation, I have 1 gig of memory like you and use GWX 2.1 with the merged campaign applied and it takes about 6-7 minutes for my saves to load up. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

04-24-08, 11:34 AM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Be careful how you walk in those high heels @Captain Nemo...1GB should be fine, but 2GB is actually better than twice as good __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-24-08, 11:48 AM	#14
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I have 4GB on my pc & I find that using the Lite Harbour Traffic Mod that came with GWX 2.0 does help speed load times a little. It's a great option if sometimes, you don't want to deal with a lot of harbour traffic. I'm just a wee bit impatient....

04-26-08, 06:38 AM	#15
VIICDriver Engineer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 203 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	2GB here and mine hangs for some time at the 90% red bar mark as well. Thats the time I go grab a cup of coffee and by the time I'm back I'm usually loaded up listening to the music playing, watching the girls throw flowers and the guy who for whatever reason cannot get that motorcycle to kick start! It IS a little longer with GWX 2.0/2.1 than vanilla 1.4b...small sacrifice. Chuck