Grab an umbrella: it's global wetting, now...

SUBMAN1 · 04-15-08, 10:50 AM

Damn - I can't find the umbrella!

-S

Quote:

Andrew's Mailbag It's been a fascinating week for climate reporting and the BBC. On Tuesday, an astonished Jeremy Paxman was heard asking Global Warming advocate Chris Rapley on Newsnight to confirm that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen this century.

(No, Rapley agreed, it hasn't. But clearly, from the amazed look on his face, nobody had ever thought to fill Paxo in on this minor detail - until now)....

Read on here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...rming_mailbag/

SUBMAN1 · 04-15-08, 10:55 AM

Wow! Check this! Arctic Sea Ice is on the rise big time! 1 Million sq/km above average!

-S

Konovalov · 04-15-08, 11:02 AM

I'm no scientist but how can you be serious while using a graph of a WHOLE 12 months to support your argument?

To me you are simply cherry picking data to fit your claim.

SUBMAN1 · 04-15-08, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov

I'm no scientist but how can you be serious while using a graph of a WHOLE 12 months to support your argument?

To me you are simply cherry picking data to fit your claim.

I don't need to. It was down previous and this is known to everyone here, but it has rebounded. That is what I am pointing out.

-S

STEED · 04-15-08, 11:34 AM

O'Brien "How many fingers am I holding up Winston?"
Winston "Four."
O'Brien "And if the party says five, how many fingers am I holding up?"

I don't believe all this rubbish any more, it's the gravy train people. What happens will happen or to put it another way sh*t happens.

Letum · 04-15-08, 11:43 AM

Clearer graph set:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/n_plot.html

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html

SM's graph refers to the lower data set which shows a upward trend with both the
highest and lowest ice extents in the last 3 years. The trend match is poor.
The exception to this being the Antarctic Peninsula, in the Bellingshausen/Amundsen
and western Weddell seas where the ice is receding.

The top graph shows a steady decrease with a better trend match.

Why is the Antarctic growing, but the arctic shrinking?
The most obvious answer is that the Antarctic is surrounded by sea, witch is warming
and producing more snow to fall on the Antarctic, where as the amount of snow in
the Arctic is less influenced by sea temperature because there is less sea around it.
However, that is just informed speculation.

bookworm_020 · 04-15-08, 08:58 PM

I hope it's global wetting as I'm tired of having drought here in Australia!

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Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I'm no scientist but how can you be serious while using a graph of a WHOLE 12 months to support your argument? To me you are simply cherry picking data to fit your claim. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

04-15-08, 11:34 AM	#5
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	O'Brien "How many fingers am I holding up Winston?" Winston "Four." O'Brien "And if the party says five, how many fingers am I holding up?" I don't believe all this rubbish any more, it's the gravy train people. What happens will happen or to put it another way sh*t happens. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-15-08, 11:43 AM	#6
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Clearer graph set: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/n_plot.html http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html SM's graph refers to the lower data set which shows a upward trend with both the highest and lowest ice extents in the last 3 years. The trend match is poor. The exception to this being the Antarctic Peninsula, in the Bellingshausen/Amundsen and western Weddell seas where the ice is receding. The top graph shows a steady decrease with a better trend match. Why is the Antarctic growing, but the arctic shrinking? The most obvious answer is that the Antarctic is surrounded by sea, witch is warming and producing more snow to fall on the Antarctic, where as the amount of snow in the Arctic is less influenced by sea temperature because there is less sea around it. However, that is just informed speculation. __________________

04-15-08, 08:58 PM	#7
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I hope it's global wetting as I'm tired of having drought here in Australia! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"