Country Corruption Index

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 10:16 AM

THis list plays out about as expected. With Hillary in Congress, it is surprising that the US corruption index isn't lower - I think she is terribly corrupt:

http://www.transparency.org/content/...d/24104/360217

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STEED · 09-26-07, 10:22 AM

Where is North Korea, Zimbabwe and Burma which is in the news now?

Oberon · 09-26-07, 10:30 AM

Burma is at the bottom Steed,you might have missed it because it's listed as Myanmar, Zimbabwe is at 153, but I can't seem to find the DPRK...which is odd...perhaps they fell off the bottom?

bradclark1 · 09-26-07, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

With Hillary in Congress, it is surprising that the US corruption index isn't lower - I think she is terribly corrupt:

7.2 isn't anything to brag about and I doubt if the list is adjustable to one person.

I highly suspect that there are a lot more politicians that are just as corrupt. They have certainly been in the news this last few years.

fatty · 09-26-07, 10:47 AM

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Burma is at the bottom Steed,you might have missed it because it's listed as Myanmar, Zimbabwe is at 153, but I can't seem to find the DPRK...which is odd...perhaps they fell off the bottom?

N. Korea is notoriously hard to find info on in any substantial academic reports regarding anything at all. As they say regarding corruption measurement, "at least 3 [surveys] were required for a country to be included in the CPI." It's probable that the data either doesn't exist or can't be obtained.

Edit: Damn it! Socialist, crumbling Europe comes out on top again!

STEED · 09-26-07, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Burma is at the bottom Steed,you might have missed it because it's listed as Myanmar, Zimbabwe is at 153, but I can't seem to find the DPRK...which is odd...perhaps they fell off the bottom?

Cheers.

Lack of sleep.

Back to the topic.

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

7.2 isn't anything to brag about and I doubt if the list is adjustable to one person.

I highly suspect that there are a lot more politicians that are just as corrupt. They have certainly been in the news this last few years.

Brag about? I think it is terrible considering I expect it to be higher due to the standards I hold my gov too, but not surprised that it is lower because there are some bad politicians in office.

It is adjustable to one person - since the person in question holds much sway over her party, and half the voting capability, so I disagree with you on that one.

As they say - it only takes one bad apple to ruin the lot.

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Lurchi · 09-26-07, 12:17 PM

The conservatives are really afraid of Hillary, aren't they?
Maybe they believe that she will make it and become President? I think so!

But okay, here is a funny thing i noticed about this list: On the right upper side there is a Dr. Otto Graf Lambsdorff mentioned who is obviously now Professor at the University of Passau ... well, he is also a former Politician of the Liberal Party and german Ex Minister (Finance/Economy i am not sure) who was sentenced for tax fraud! :rotfl:

This makes him really competent as HE certainly knows what corruption is!

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurchi

The conservatives are really afraid of Hillary, aren't they?
Maybe they believe that she will make it and become President? I think so!

But okay, here is a funny thing i noticed about this list: On the right upper side there is a Dr. Otto Graf Lambsdorff mentioned who is obviously now Professor at the University of Passau ... well, he is also a former Politician of the Liberal Party and german Ex Minister (Finance/Economy i am not sure) who was sentenced for tax fraud! :rotfl:

This makes him really competent as HE certainly knows what corruption is!

Not really. What scares me is that allthough I know it is technically impossible for her to be voted into office, she is still in Congress and still a force to be reckoned with. Her and D. Feinstein. Crazy that we allow them to the position where they are now. Of course, New York and Kalifornia are known for bringing left wing whackos into office and there is nothing the other 48 states can do about it. That is why Hillary moved to New York - she didn't live there but knew she could get the win for Congress - a win that would be difficult and impossible in nearly any other state.

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fatty · 09-26-07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurchi

The conservatives are really afraid of Hillary, aren't they?
Maybe they believe that she will make it and become President? I think so!

But okay, here is a funny thing i noticed about this list: On the right upper side there is a Dr. Otto Graf Lambsdorff mentioned who is obviously now Professor at the University of Passau ... well, he is also a former Politician of the Liberal Party and german Ex Minister (Finance/Economy i am not sure) who was sentenced for tax fraud! :rotfl:

This makes him really competent as HE certainly knows what corruption is!

This table is actually prepared by Johann Graf Lambsdorff, different guy.

fatty · 09-26-07, 12:46 PM

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What scares me is that allthough I know it is technically impossible for her to be voted into office...

How is it technically impossible? What do you mean?

Lurchi · 09-26-07, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fatty

This table is actually prepared by Johann Graf Lambsdorff, different guy.

Ah, now i see it - my fault. The two are just relatives and Otto is quite famous here for this whole tax affair

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I am also interested to know why it is 'technically' impossible for Hillary to be elected as President. Okay, i am not so familiar with US inner politics but i think she has a good chance - especially when she is able to mobilize the female nonvoters to go to elections this time.

SUBMAN1 · 09-26-07, 01:04 PM

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What scares me is that allthough I know it is technically impossible for her to be voted into office...

How is it technically impossible? What do you mean?

She is universally untrusted already. I hope she gets the nomination since it will then make her Republican challenger have an easier time of winning.

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fatty · 09-26-07, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What scares me is that allthough I know it is technically impossible for her to be voted into office...

How is it technically impossible? What do you mean?

She is universally untrusted already. I hope she gets the nomination since it will then make her Republican challenger have an easier time of winning.

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So when you say "technically impossible," you really meant "universally untrusted," but what you should really be saying is that "preliminary polls currently place Clinton equal or +/- a few percentage points to Democratic and Republican rivals." I see.

nikimcbee · 04-13-08, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What scares me is that allthough I know it is technically impossible for her to be voted into office...

How is it technically impossible? What do you mean?

She is universally untrusted already. I hope she gets the nomination since it will then make her Republican challenger have an easier time of winning.

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I found this thread under the couch when I was cleaning.

...Hillary not trusted. huh, didn't see that one coming. I wrote this posting while I was under heavy serbian sniper fire. I remeber the posting well, just like it was 10 seconds ago...

I finished my lunch, when I was warned of an imminent attack of NVA SAMs... I put my aluminium helmet on as I wrote this posting. Then heavy artillery fire opened up on us as I typed faster while I was in a trench with Jimbuna waiting for the Germans to attack us. The gas bell rang, I remeber that distinctly, I put my gas mask on as the Japanese planes flew over as I hit "send"

09-26-07, 10:16 AM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Country Corruption Index THis list plays out about as expected. With Hillary in Congress, it is surprising that the US corruption index isn't lower - I think she is terribly corrupt: http://www.transparency.org/content/...d/24104/360217 -S __________________

09-26-07, 10:22 AM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Where is North Korea, Zimbabwe and Burma which is in the news now? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-26-07, 10:30 AM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Burma is at the bottom Steed,you might have missed it because it's listed as Myanmar, Zimbabwe is at 153, but I can't seem to find the DPRK...which is odd...perhaps they fell off the bottom?

09-26-07, 12:17 PM	#8
Lurchi Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wilhelmshaven, Germany Posts: 181 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	The conservatives are really afraid of Hillary, aren't they? Maybe they believe that she will make it and become President? I think so! But okay, here is a funny thing i noticed about this list: On the right upper side there is a Dr. Otto Graf Lambsdorff mentioned who is obviously now Professor at the University of Passau ... well, he is also a former Politician of the Liberal Party and german Ex Minister (Finance/Economy i am not sure) who was sentenced for tax fraud! :rotfl: This makes him really competent as HE certainly knows what corruption is!