WO won't move? (& other Qs)

KNomad · 11-07-09, 06:27 PM

What does it take to get a Watch Officer to actually go outside when surfacing?

Also, how do I run decks awash w/o a mod?
Every time i try to dive a little the bridge clears.

Another, I've read about running w/o one deisel engine recharging the baterries?
How do I do this?

Thanks in advance.

Dissaray · 11-07-09, 06:47 PM

I don't know about that battery thing, but to run with your decks awash just set your depth to 6 or 7 m and it should work just fine. Though I have only ever done this with the GWX3 instaled so I am not too sure about the stock game.

As for your WO, you have to move him manualy from the crew managment screen (F7). I havn't found a way to get him to go places automaticaly, other than into the crew's quarters when diving.

irish1958 · 11-07-09, 06:52 PM

Welcome aboard.
1) you have to put the SOB there every time. There was work on a mod a while back to do it, but it never panned out.
2)To run with decks awash, try setting you depth down by 1 meter.
3)There is a button on the engineer's orders to choose either regular propulsion or recharge. The default is recharging if the battery needs it. Once it is fully charged, it will automatically switch to standard.
Your top speed will be reduced by 40% or so while recharging.

Abd_von_Mumit · 11-07-09, 06:59 PM

1. As far I know there is no way to make him go but dragging him yourself. Hard coded I suppose. And I too dislike it very much, to the point it makes me dive for sonar checks much less often.

2. Just manually order a new depth of 6.9 metres (works for types VII and II), this is as deep my boats go without teoretically submerging (clearing the bridge). It's only 2 metres deeper than cruising depth, but it SIGNIFICANTLY shortens time to dive and probably makes you harder to spot. It will also slow you by a lot too, especially in rough waters. In storm it can make any UZO/binoculars observation impossible. You can use any compromise depth between 5 and 7 metres too - up to you.

3. This is done automatically - you'll notice you run slower after surfacing till you reload your batteries. Using your helmsman officer you can order normal cruise ("stop recharging") to gain speed even if batteries are not full though, which can be useful in critical situations.

Wreford-Brown · 11-07-09, 07:45 PM

IIRC the decks awash piece was added by GWX and maybe some of the other supermods. I don't think you can run decks awash with stock.

Weiss Pinguin · 11-07-09, 09:16 PM

There's some mods for stock that let you run decks awash, but un-modded? Not unless you stay close to poor weather

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Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

1. As far I know there is no way to make him go but dragging him yourself. Hard coded I suppose. And I too dislike it very much, to the point it makes me dive for sonar checks much less often.

Same here. One of the things I liked about SH4 (To be honest I haven't been able to play it enough to find many things I don't like about it - Blast you old technology!!) was the watch system. No more having to drag people around unless you wanted to.

von hally · 11-08-09, 02:48 PM

yeah hard coded on the WO i'm afraid...as for decks awash.....very useful in GWX during convoy attacks...get in the habit of running like this most of the time.....it may mean the difference between returning to port or hitting the bottom of the drink!!!!

KNomad · 11-08-09, 03:19 PM

Running Vanilla + Commander + a few mods ...

Is it better to end a patrol & save and then reload to do upgardes to boat/crew ... or doesn't it matter?

(I know it's better to start a new patrol after a restart of the game w/Commander, just not sure about upgrades.)

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-11-09, 12:46 AM

1WO's are noted for their persistent laziness in SH3. Even threatening these individuals with bodily harm only results in yawns and bored looks.

Repeated kicking/dragging by the scruff of the neck... all the way to his bridge station does appear to work though... Once on the bridge they tend to wake up and do a fair job.

1WO's will however happily and rapidly plunge through the hatch without similar assistance when you dive the boat though.

Subnuts · 11-11-09, 09:20 AM

Well, your IWO has to shave, comb his hair, smooth out the creases in his uniform, carefully remove all of the bones in his fish, and drain all of the blood from his face before he can go on watch. So you can imagine, it takes him a while to get going.

Weiss Pinguin · 11-11-09, 11:02 AM

I remember a while back someone was trying to figure out a 3rd party program that would automatically move the WO for you.... That was a long while back though, and I doubt he ever worked it out. That would've been the coolest thing though.

Also, for upgrades, I don't think it really matters when you get them. On that note, in my current career I've noticed that I can buy engine upgrades... I thought they were taken out with GWX?

Dissaray · 11-11-09, 04:09 PM

I think I remember reading in the GWX3 manual that some of the subs still have the engen upgrades, the subs that didn't come with the turbo chargers installed already. I know that in my games I don't get the opertunity to buy them when commanding the type VIIB, the only sub I live long enuf to command.

Platapus · 11-11-09, 08:02 PM

It does make me wonder why Ubi coded the game like that in the first place.

Venatore · 11-11-09, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

1WO's are noted for their persistent laziness in SH3. Even threatening these individuals with bodily harm only results in yawns and bored looks.

Repeated kicking/dragging by the scruff of the neck... all the way to his bridge station does appear to work though... Once on the bridge they tend to wake up and do a fair job.

1WO's will however happily and rapidly plunge through the hatch without similar assistance when you dive the boat though.

Good comments

Sailor Steve · 11-12-09, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dissaray

I think I remember reading in the GWX3 manual that some of the subs still have the engen upgrades, the subs that didn't come with the turbo chargers installed already. I know that in my games I don't get the opertunity to buy them when commanding the type VIIB, the only sub I live long enuf to command.

I suspect you misread it. U-boats that didn't have superchargers in real life never had them installed later, and the ones that did (Type VIIb and later) didn't need upgrades. GWX reflects that properly.

The problem with the stock game is that the upgrades let the boats go much faster than they really did.

11-07-09, 06:27 PM	#1
KNomad Swabbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	WO won't move? (& other Qs) What does it take to get a Watch Officer to actually go outside when surfacing? Also, how do I run decks awash w/o a mod? Every time i try to dive a little the bridge clears. Another, I've read about running w/o one deisel engine recharging the baterries? How do I do this? Thanks in advance.

11-07-09, 06:52 PM	#3
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Welcome aboard. 1) you have to put the SOB there every time. There was work on a mod a while back to do it, but it never panned out. 2)To run with decks awash, try setting you depth down by 1 meter. 3)There is a button on the engineer's orders to choose either regular propulsion or recharge. The default is recharging if the battery needs it. Once it is fully charged, it will automatically switch to standard. Your top speed will be reduced by 40% or so while recharging. __________________ Irish1958

11-07-09, 06:59 PM	#4
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	1. As far I know there is no way to make him go but dragging him yourself. Hard coded I suppose. And I too dislike it very much, to the point it makes me dive for sonar checks much less often. 2. Just manually order a new depth of 6.9 metres (works for types VII and II), this is as deep my boats go without teoretically submerging (clearing the bridge). It's only 2 metres deeper than cruising depth, but it SIGNIFICANTLY shortens time to dive and probably makes you harder to spot. It will also slow you by a lot too, especially in rough waters. In storm it can make any UZO/binoculars observation impossible. You can use any compromise depth between 5 and 7 metres too - up to you. 3. This is done automatically - you'll notice you run slower after surfacing till you reload your batteries. Using your helmsman officer you can order normal cruise ("stop recharging") to gain speed even if batteries are not full though, which can be useful in critical situations. __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

11-07-09, 07:45 PM	#5
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	IIRC the decks awash piece was added by GWX and maybe some of the other supermods. I don't think you can run decks awash with stock. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

11-08-09, 02:48 PM	#7
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	yeah hard coded on the WO i'm afraid...as for decks awash.....very useful in GWX during convoy attacks...get in the habit of running like this most of the time.....it may mean the difference between returning to port or hitting the bottom of the drink!!!! __________________ May God Have Mercy Upon My Enemies ..... Because I Wont.

11-07-09, 06:47 PM	#2
Dissaray 中国水兵 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 280 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I don't know about that battery thing, but to run with your decks awash just set your depth to 6 or 7 m and it should work just fine. Though I have only ever done this with the GWX3 instaled so I am not too sure about the stock game. As for your WO, you have to move him manualy from the crew managment screen (F7). I havn't found a way to get him to go places automaticaly, other than into the crew's quarters when diving.

11-08-09, 03:19 PM	#8
KNomad Swabbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	Running Vanilla + Commander + a few mods ... Is it better to end a patrol & save and then reload to do upgardes to boat/crew ... or doesn't it matter? (I know it's better to start a new patrol after a restart of the game w/Commander, just not sure about upgrades.)

11-11-09, 12:46 AM	#9
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	1WO's are noted for their persistent laziness in SH3. Even threatening these individuals with bodily harm only results in yawns and bored looks. Repeated kicking/dragging by the scruff of the neck... all the way to his bridge station does appear to work though... Once on the bridge they tend to wake up and do a fair job. 1WO's will however happily and rapidly plunge through the hatch without similar assistance when you dive the boat though. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

11-11-09, 09:20 AM	#10
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, your IWO has to shave, comb his hair, smooth out the creases in his uniform, carefully remove all of the bones in his fish, and drain all of the blood from his face before he can go on watch. So you can imagine, it takes him a while to get going. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

11-11-09, 11:02 AM	#11
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I remember a while back someone was trying to figure out a 3rd party program that would automatically move the WO for you.... That was a long while back though, and I doubt he ever worked it out. That would've been the coolest thing though. Also, for upgrades, I don't think it really matters when you get them. On that note, in my current career I've noticed that I can buy engine upgrades... I thought they were taken out with GWX? __________________

11-11-09, 04:09 PM	#12
Dissaray 中国水兵 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 280 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I think I remember reading in the GWX3 manual that some of the subs still have the engen upgrades, the subs that didn't come with the turbo chargers installed already. I know that in my games I don't get the opertunity to buy them when commanding the type VIIB, the only sub I live long enuf to command.

11-11-09, 08:02 PM	#13
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It does make me wonder why Ubi coded the game like that in the first place. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.