Third delay for the Boeing's Dreamliner in the making?

Skybird · 03-20-08, 08:25 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...37040820080320

I'm sure after the scorn and derision Airbus earned from Boeing fans with the delay of the A380 due to too short cables that needed to be replaced, this third problem with the Dreamliner will give some Airbus-fans some gloomy satisfaction.

Both planes mark two very different longterm strategies of both companies, and although technically the A350 should be seen as the competing Airbus model to the dreamliner, it was always the comparison of these two keydesigns, Dreamliner versus A380 - that fused debate, and attracted people's comparison.

Konovalov · 03-20-08, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...37040820080320

I'm sure after the scorn and derision Airbus earned from Boeing fans with the delay of the A380 due to too short cables that needed to be replaced, this third problem with the Dreamliner will give some Airbus-fans some gloomy satisfaction.

Indeed.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-08, 11:17 AM

As I always say - Take as much time as you need!

I want a 100% properly working aircraft every time I fly!

-S

Konovalov · 03-20-08, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

As I always say - Take as much time as you need!

I want a 100% properly working aircraft every time I fly!

-S

I don't recall you saying anything like that concerning Airbus. I wonder why that is? :hmm:

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-08, 11:54 AM

Because I don't fly Airbus?

Besides - these are composite problems - something an airliner has never been built out of before. Its a learning curve.

-S

TteFAboB · 03-20-08, 03:21 PM

Good old days: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/...ess/airbus.php

Skybird · 04-09-08, 07:11 AM

More bad news for Boeing's Dreamliner: more delay, and one of three models possibly getting stopped.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle3708982.ece

Now the compensation demands will start coming in from airlines.

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-09-08, 07:26 AM

Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies

Trex · 04-09-08, 07:55 AM

I'd settle for the legroom.

Skybird · 04-09-08, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies

the alternative is a general anaesthetic plus a capacious suitcase.

XabbaRus · 04-09-08, 10:29 AM

Subman1 talk about pot calling kettle black.
When airbus were having problems with the A380 you were all over it like a rash with criticisms.

Now with the 787 you are calming stating they should take their time.

Well the problems I've read about involve not properly working out the loads the wingbox has to take (elementary stuff IMO for an astute engineer), ie static loads instead of the variable dynamic loads.

Yes a complete aeroplane hasn't been made from composites before, but composites are not new. These problems should have been forseen.

STEED · 04-09-08, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies

WHY?

Cattle class not good for you any more. :hmm:

bradclark1 · 04-09-08, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies

They have them. It's called first class.

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-09-08, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies

They have them. It's called first class.

Which requires something that I dont have, and that's money.

Tchocky · 04-09-08, 01:48 PM

Seems like both the 787 and the A380 are going to have more legroom. I hope so.

03-20-08, 08:25 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Third delay for the Boeing's Dreamliner in the making? http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...37040820080320 I'm sure after the scorn and derision Airbus earned from Boeing fans with the delay of the A380 due to too short cables that needed to be replaced, this third problem with the Dreamliner will give some Airbus-fans some gloomy satisfaction. Both planes mark two very different longterm strategies of both companies, and although technically the A350 should be seen as the competing Airbus model to the dreamliner, it was always the comparison of these two keydesigns, Dreamliner versus A380 - that fused debate, and attracted people's comparison. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As I always say - Take as much time as you need! I want a 100% properly working aircraft every time I fly! -S __________________

03-20-08, 11:54 AM	#5
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Because I don't fly Airbus? Besides - these are composite problems - something an airliner has never been built out of before. Its a learning curve. -S __________________

03-20-08, 03:21 PM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Good old days: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/...ess/airbus.php __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

04-09-08, 07:11 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	More bad news for Boeing's Dreamliner: more delay, and one of three models possibly getting stopped. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle3708982.ece Now the compensation demands will start coming in from airlines. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-09-08, 07:26 AM	#8
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Just make one with some damn legroom and good movies __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

04-09-08, 07:55 AM	#9
Trex Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 262 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd settle for the legroom.

04-09-08, 10:29 AM	#11
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Subman1 talk about pot calling kettle black. When airbus were having problems with the A380 you were all over it like a rash with criticisms. Now with the 787 you are calming stating they should take their time. Well the problems I've read about involve not properly working out the loads the wingbox has to take (elementary stuff IMO for an astute engineer), ie static loads instead of the variable dynamic loads. Yes a complete aeroplane hasn't been made from composites before, but composites are not new. These problems should have been forseen. __________________

04-09-08, 01:48 PM	#15
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Seems like both the 787 and the A380 are going to have more legroom. I hope so. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]