Wreck of HMAS Sydney found

Pioneer · 03-16-08, 05:03 PM

There's not an Australian who hasn't at some time been told of the "mystery" sinking of HMAS Sydney.

And now, it appears the mystery of the sinking may be put to rest, and the families know where the grave lays.

HMAS Sydney

CCIP · 03-16-08, 05:04 PM

!

If that's true, that was quick (after Kormoran's find that is). Excellent work. I can't wait for pictures...

Letum · 03-16-08, 05:07 PM

hehe,

I just got a radio message in SH3 telling me about this event.

03-16-08, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

!

If that's true, that was quick (after Kormoran's find that is). Excellent work. I can't wait for pictures...

Survivors from Kormoran said they saw the Sydney explode just on or just over the horizon so finding the Kormoran really narrowed down the search area - iirc Kormoran didn't move very far from the battle site before she sank.

CCIP · 03-16-08, 05:17 PM

Yes, I realize that. But still quite impressive to have this found within a day.

03-16-08, 05:23 PM

It's just been announced from the Prime ministers office that they have found the sydney , so its official now

Alot of families will finally get some closure.

TarJak · 03-16-08, 05:37 PM

This has been long awaited by many Australians and hopefully can bring closure to many of the families and friends of the crewmembers lost in this tragedy.

Oberon · 03-16-08, 06:23 PM

Being a Brit, I had no idea about the Sydney so I wiki'd her (and updated the article) and well, I completely understand now, this is a very momentus day, and I'm very glad she was found, now some closure can be brought to the families who have grieved for these 66 years.

Sailor Steve · 03-16-08, 06:33 PM

I'm a longtime follower of Naval history, and this is truly amazing.

CCIP · 03-16-08, 06:53 PM

" Mr Rudd said the Sydney was located yesterday, about 22km from the Kormoran."

Sounds about right then. I wondered when the first report suggested they were 4km apart, and that would be a bit odd considering the German reports say Sydney was beyond the horizon when they still saw flames from it.

bookworm_020 · 03-16-08, 08:05 PM

Will be intresting to see what remains of her, and if it can shead some answers on her sinking.

CCIP · 03-16-08, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Will be intresting to see what remains of her, and if it can shead some answers on her sinking.

Article now says...

"Mr Rudd said the hull has been found largely intact."

Encouraging! :hmm:

TarJak · 03-16-08, 08:48 PM

Being 2km below the surface means that it would be difficult to do much other than remote imaging. I understand the desire is to leave the wreck in peace and have both sites registered as war graves.

CCIP · 03-16-08, 09:05 PM

Oh, I agree entirely. I don't think any comprehensive digging through the site is needed. But... even a brief look with remote imagery can probably be of benefit. One wouldn't need to be intrusive to see whether it was a magazine explosion that took her down, or something else that went wrong and doomed the whole crew.

Otherwise, whatever the case, I think it's clear to everyone now that we have the wrecks side by side - the Sydney and her crew were definitely lost in battle against the Kormoran, along with Kormoran and 70 of her crew. Whatever happened, happened. That's the first thing that needs to be known and respected foremost.

iambecomelife · 03-16-08, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Will be intresting to see what remains of her, and if it can shead some answers on her sinking.

Article now says...

"Mr Rudd said the hull has been found largely intact."

Encouraging! :hmm:

Glad to hear that she's in decent shape - it's quite fitting.

Her crew may have saved hundreds of lives with their dying act. I hope that this find will generate some more interest in her history.

03-16-08, 05:03 PM	#1
Pioneer Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: AU in the USA Posts: 349 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Wreck of HMAS Sydney found There's not an Australian who hasn't at some time been told of the "mystery" sinking of HMAS Sydney. And now, it appears the mystery of the sinking may be put to rest, and the families know where the grave lays. HMAS Sydney __________________ An AU writer marooned in the USA. The American Pioneer story continues @ www.grantmadden.com Latest publication: Chicken Soup for the Soul Angels and Miracles

03-16-08, 05:04 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	! If that's true, that was quick (after Kormoran's find that is). Excellent work. I can't wait for pictures... __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-16-08, 05:07 PM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	hehe, I just got a radio message in SH3 telling me about this event. __________________

03-16-08, 05:17 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yes, I realize that. But still quite impressive to have this found within a day. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-16-08, 06:33 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm a longtime follower of Naval history, and this is truly amazing. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-16-08, 05:23 PM	#6
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It's just been announced from the Prime ministers office that they have found the sydney , so its official now Alot of families will finally get some closure.

03-16-08, 05:37 PM	#7
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	This has been long awaited by many Australians and hopefully can bring closure to many of the families and friends of the crewmembers lost in this tragedy.

03-16-08, 06:23 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Being a Brit, I had no idea about the Sydney so I wiki'd her (and updated the article) and well, I completely understand now, this is a very momentus day, and I'm very glad she was found, now some closure can be brought to the families who have grieved for these 66 years.

03-16-08, 06:53 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	" Mr Rudd said the Sydney was located yesterday, about 22km from the Kormoran." Sounds about right then. I wondered when the first report suggested they were 4km apart, and that would be a bit odd considering the German reports say Sydney was beyond the horizon when they still saw flames from it. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-16-08, 08:05 PM	#11
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Will be intresting to see what remains of her, and if it can shead some answers on her sinking. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

03-16-08, 08:48 PM	#13
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Being 2km below the surface means that it would be difficult to do much other than remote imaging. I understand the desire is to leave the wreck in peace and have both sites registered as war graves.

03-16-08, 09:05 PM	#14
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Oh, I agree entirely. I don't think any comprehensive digging through the site is needed. But... even a brief look with remote imagery can probably be of benefit. One wouldn't need to be intrusive to see whether it was a magazine explosion that took her down, or something else that went wrong and doomed the whole crew. Otherwise, whatever the case, I think it's clear to everyone now that we have the wrecks side by side - the Sydney and her crew were definitely lost in battle against the Kormoran, along with Kormoran and 70 of her crew. Whatever happened, happened. That's the first thing that needs to be known and respected foremost. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)