Dubb-Ya's after it again...

[DeepIron]

http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...19099420080312

"As we speak, Colombia is under assault from a terrorist network known as the FARC, which aims to overthrow Colombia's democracy and aims to impose a Marxist vision on the country," Bush told the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

"Hello? Earth to Dubb-Ya... FARC has been around for like ... 40+ years!"

What will it be this time? BMDs? Burritos of Mass Destruction?

[Ducimus]

resident George W. Bush said on Wednesday he intended to send a controversial free trade pact with Colombia to Congress soon for a vote and warned rejecting the pact would harm U.S. national security.

How, is anything in columbia have anything to do with national secruity? Unrestricted drug cartels? phhht.

A person can cry wolf only so many times. After awhile, you just stop believing anything that person says.

[DeepIron]

I think he's spoiling for a fight with Chavez.

[August]

Yeah Chavez and the rest of the reds in latin America should have every right to sponsor leftist guerilla movements in their neighborning countries. Is that what you two are saying?

[DeepIron]

No. I'm saying that once again, Dubb-Ya is pitching it hot and fast to Congress. "You guys need to pass this legislation just 'cause I say so"...
Suddenly, a "terrorist" group (before they were just a "leftist gueriila movement" as you point out) are threatening the stability in the region, yada, yada, yada. Colombia has been fighting them for years and if they hadn't made an excursion into Ecuador, would probably still be pursuing them off the average Americans radar...

What's next, more involvement with Spain to combat ETA? Shall we align with Turkey and take out the PKK?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah Chavez and the rest of the reds in latin America should have every right to sponsor leftist guerilla movements in their neighborning countries. Is that what you two are saying?

As someone who's been deployed to a few of em.... i dont give a rats ass what goes on in some 3rd world hell hole. Not one little bit. The people there? I dont care. Really, i dont. They can all rott under some dictatorship - not our problem.

At least, not until it hits my pocket book. I believe in blunt honesty and im being blunt honest right now. I seriously, DO NOT CARE. They're nation, their problem, not ours. So, Hey if were going to go kick ass so the price at the pump goes down - at least lets be honest about it as a nation instead of spouting a bunch of BS rehtoric so we feel warm and fuzzy. (and no, im not referring to Iraq, i dont know what that clustef**k is about anymore, i really don't).

[August]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

They're nation, their problem, not ours. So, Hey if were going to go kick ass so the price at the pump goes down - at least lets be honest about it as a nation instead of spouting a bunch of BS rehtoric so we feel warm and fuzzy. (and no, im not referring to Iraq, i dont know what that clustef**k is about anymore, i really don't).

If it were just "their nation" i'd agree but Venezuela and Ecuador are both sheltering that guerrilla force behind their borders. One that i might add also traffics in cocaine to fund their operations in Columbia so your mention of drug cartels is especially ironic.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah Chavez and the rest of the reds in latin America should have every right to sponsor leftist guerilla movements in their neighborning countries. Is that what you two are saying?

Why not? The USA has sponsored its fair share of rightist guerilla groups in South and Central America over the years.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Why not? The USA has sponsored its fair share of rightist guerilla groups in South and Central America over the years.

Good one Mr. Beast nothing but net on that one.

So what is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?

It depends on whether you like em or not!

[August]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Why not? The USA has sponsored its fair share of rightist guerilla groups in South and Central America over the years.

Somehow the fact that you are supporting Chavez and his murdering, kidnapping, drug trafficking friends doesn't suprise me in the least MrBeast.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

How, is anything in columbia have anything to do with national secruity? Unrestricted drug cartels? phhht.

A person can cry wolf only so many times. After awhile, you just stop believing anything that person says.

Everything he does is a matter of national security. It does get old.