Escorts question

peabody · 03-06-08, 12:36 PM

I was wondering if this is based on fact or just in the game. It is late in the war, I think my mission is April or May '45 and the escorts are crazy. I have seen 1 ship with 4 escorts. I have seen 5 merchants with 7 escorts, etc. Does anyone know if it changed like that in RL or if it's just in the game. I usually get 3 of 4 escorts no matter how big the convoy is. Or were there more escorts throughout the entire war and the game just uses less?

Peabody

seafarer · 03-06-08, 12:57 PM

If you look at the historical rate of IJN losses, especially from mid-1943 or so onwards, and the almost complete lack of new construction, it is just the game. By the end of 1944, the vast majority of the IJN fleet lay on the bottom, and there was nothing coming down the ways to replace the losses.

Of course, that would make for a pretty boring set of final patrols in the game if all there was to sink were some wooden junks, a few rusty old coastal steamers, and the odd barge.

p.s. listings of IJN losses by year can be found here - http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japa...-Losses-3.html
The IJN had only a very limited building program during the war - eg. 10 carriers built from 1942-1945, versus 150 (fleet and escort) by the USN.

Berinhardt · 03-08-08, 04:50 PM

Well, the Japanese Navy started the war with 108 destroyers with 43 being built... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperia...f_World_War_II)

and I notice that 145 were sunk during the war (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japa...-Losses-3.html)

Not sure how many were completed during the war, but I woudn't expect a lot of escorts at the end of the war...

03-06-08, 12:36 PM	#1
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Escorts question I was wondering if this is based on fact or just in the game. It is late in the war, I think my mission is April or May '45 and the escorts are crazy. I have seen 1 ship with 4 escorts. I have seen 5 merchants with 7 escorts, etc. Does anyone know if it changed like that in RL or if it's just in the game. I usually get 3 of 4 escorts no matter how big the convoy is. Or were there more escorts throughout the entire war and the game just uses less? Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

03-06-08, 12:57 PM	#2
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you look at the historical rate of IJN losses, especially from mid-1943 or so onwards, and the almost complete lack of new construction, it is just the game. By the end of 1944, the vast majority of the IJN fleet lay on the bottom, and there was nothing coming down the ways to replace the losses. Of course, that would make for a pretty boring set of final patrols in the game if all there was to sink were some wooden junks, a few rusty old coastal steamers, and the odd barge. p.s. listings of IJN losses by year can be found here - http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japa...-Losses-3.html The IJN had only a very limited building program during the war - eg. 10 carriers built from 1942-1945, versus 150 (fleet and escort) by the USN. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD Last edited by seafarer; 03-06-08 at 01:12 PM.

03-08-08, 04:50 PM	#3
Berinhardt Seaman Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 37 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Escorts Well, the Japanese Navy started the war with 108 destroyers with 43 being built... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperia...f_World_War_II) and I notice that 145 were sunk during the war (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japa...-Losses-3.html) Not sure how many were completed during the war, but I woudn't expect a lot of escorts at the end of the war... __________________ ================\|================== Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat. John Lehman (1942 - ), Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987