Chavez supported FARC?

DeepIron · 03-03-08, 05:29 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...27633020080303

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Colombia's police chief, Gen. Oscar Naranjo, said documents found at the FARC camp in Ecuador showed evidence that Chavez gave the rebels $300 million and had suggested a deal to supply them with old rifles.

Interesting... FARC grabs hostages, Chavez meets with FARC under guise of negotiation for hostage release, offers FARC $300M and gun deal, gets a few hostages released to look good... Displays "righteous indignation" at Ecuador excursion and immediately escalates...

If true, sounds like 'ol Hugo is trying to draw Columbia and their ally, the US into a war...

Jimbuna · 03-03-08, 05:33 PM

Wouldn't suprise me....he's as nutty as a fruit cake

JSLTIGER · 03-03-08, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Wouldn't suprise me....he's as nutty as a fruit cake

We'll see if he actually steps down as constitutionally mandated in 2013...

HunterICX · 03-03-08, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Wouldn't suprise me....he's as nutty as a fruit cake

its a dramatic overreacting clown

HunterICX

DeepIron · 03-03-08, 05:41 PM

Ok Chavez is a blustering, sabre-rattling buffoon... But I don't count him out yet...

What concerns me is this, (speculating) IF Chavez does start a military incident in Columbia, how is the US going to respond? We are heavily committed in the Middle East and Afghanistan in the "War on Terror". Our military reserves are almost spent... We will be hardpressed to make a show of it in SA, an area in which we have been accused of ignoring in our foreign policy for years.

Failure to respond will only discredit us some more and could add support to regimes hostile to US and other democratic governments in SA.

SUBMAN1 · 03-03-08, 06:00 PM

The war will rage for a few days, but thats no matter. The US should probaperly take the matter before the UN and get world support or at least NATO support against Chavez. THough I'd like to have the US crush him on their own, to make him look like a clown to the entire International community, this one proper step needs to be taken first. If the US goes it alone, Chevez will claim US Imperialism once again.

The Chess game is in motion.

-S

bradclark1 · 03-03-08, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

Ok Chavez is a blustering, sabre-rattling buffoon... But I don't count him out yet...

What concerns me is this, (speculating) IF Chavez does start a military incident in Columbia, how is the US going to respond? We are heavily committed in the Middle East and Afghanistan in the "War on Terror". Our military reserves are almost spent... We will be hardpressed to make a show of it in SA, an area in which we have been accused of ignoring in our foreign policy for years.

Failure to respond will only discredit us some more and could add support to regimes hostile to US and other democratic governments in SA.

Start an airlift of military supplies, park a squadron or two of F-15's and A-10's with support elements at their airport, and send in some SF advisors and FAC's.
That will send the message. We'll get flack for war mongering from supporters of Chavez but we can live with that.

Seth8530 · 03-03-08, 06:22 PM

Umm what do yall think the chances of war betweem Colombia, venezuala and ecuador are?

bradclark1 · 03-03-08, 06:25 PM

I think it's pretty low and Chavez is just sabre rattling.

DeepIron · 03-03-08, 06:31 PM

I thnk it's unlikely except for one thing: Ahmadinejad and Chavez are buddies and both hate the US. I can see pressure exerted on two fronts by these guys...

sonar732 · 03-03-08, 06:38 PM

Do we still have access to our former bases in Panama?:hmm:

mrbeast · 03-03-08, 06:47 PM

I doubt it will come to war.

Chavez has got too much to lose. Any war would be bound to interupt oil exports and Venezuala depends on oil for the bulk of its income. Also there is a lot of important trade with Columbia including food imports which Chavez needs to off set food shortages.

Is there any more evidence for Venezulan material support of FARC besides the say so of a Columbian police chief? Have they presented the documents they claim they found for inspection?

Tchocky · 03-03-08, 07:00 PM

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THough I'd like to have the US crush him on their own, to make him look like a clown to the entire International community, this one proper step needs to be taken first. If the US goes it alone, Chevez will claim US Imperialism once again.

I doubt Chavez will come off the worse if the US "crushes" him. I also doubt that the "imperialism" taunt will be exclusive to Chavez either.

Democracy..yay.

August · 03-03-08, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

I doubt Chavez will come off the worse if the US "crushes" him.

Dunno about that. Look at Noreiga.

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I also doubt that the "imperialism" taunt will be exclusive to Chavez either.

You are right about that though...

Tchocky · 03-03-08, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

I doubt Chavez will come off the worse if the US "crushes" him.

Dunno about that. Look at Noreiga.

I should clarify. I was thinking about public international opinion.

03-03-08, 05:33 PM	#2
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DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok Chavez is a blustering, sabre-rattling buffoon... But I don't count him out yet... What concerns me is this, (speculating) IF Chavez does start a military incident in Columbia, how is the US going to respond? We are heavily committed in the Middle East and Afghanistan in the "War on Terror". Our military reserves are almost spent... We will be hardpressed to make a show of it in SA, an area in which we have been accused of ignoring in our foreign policy for years. Failure to respond will only discredit us some more and could add support to regimes hostile to US and other democratic governments in SA. __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

03-03-08, 06:00 PM	#6
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The war will rage for a few days, but thats no matter. The US should probaperly take the matter before the UN and get world support or at least NATO support against Chavez. THough I'd like to have the US crush him on their own, to make him look like a clown to the entire International community, this one proper step needs to be taken first. If the US goes it alone, Chevez will claim US Imperialism once again. The Chess game is in motion. -S __________________

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Seth8530 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 546 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Umm what do yall think the chances of war betweem Colombia, venezuala and ecuador are? __________________

03-03-08, 06:25 PM	#9
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I think it's pretty low and Chavez is just sabre rattling. __________________

03-03-08, 06:31 PM	#10
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thnk it's unlikely except for one thing: Ahmadinejad and Chavez are buddies and both hate the US. I can see pressure exerted on two fronts by these guys... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

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sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Do we still have access to our former bases in Panama?:hmm:

03-03-08, 06:47 PM	#12
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I doubt it will come to war. Chavez has got too much to lose. Any war would be bound to interupt oil exports and Venezuala depends on oil for the bulk of its income. Also there is a lot of important trade with Columbia including food imports which Chavez needs to off set food shortages. Is there any more evidence for Venezulan material support of FARC besides the say so of a Columbian police chief? Have they presented the documents they claim they found for inspection? __________________