VIIB vs. VIIC

[Graf Paper]

I've earned enough renown to trade in my trusty U-47 type VIIB u-boat for a type VIIC boat.

Upon comparing the vital stats of the two variants, I noticed the only apparent differences listed was the VIIB is slightly faster both surfaced and submerged but the VIIC is three seconds faster in its dive time and somewhat larger in its displacement tonnage.

Is it really worth it to spend 3,000 Renown getting the VIIC? Can any of you more experienced Kaleuns clue me in on the advantages the VIIC may or may not have over the VIIB besides having a secondary flak gun?

[Penelope_Grey]

trading in for a VIIC is a good move as they have faster dives, and even more useful... a stronger pressure hull. the VIIC could generally go deeper than the VIIB use ful when the escorts begin to get good.

Also the VIIC has far more options for upgrade over the VIIB like better conning towers.

Also the speed difference is negligable at best a VIIC will do 8 knots submerged too.

[GlobalExplorer]

I tried to stick with the VIIB because it looks much better I think the C has more hitpoints and it can dive deeper, but I am not qualified to make claims.

[Sledgehammer427]

yeah and the VII/C look cooler too lol

i like the quicker diving time, and the huge amounts of skins that u can D/L for them

[Wolfehunter]

VIIC is far better looking too.

Don't you agree..

[Penelope_Grey]

LOL does it matter?

As long as it does the business. lol

[GlobalExplorer]

size dont matter eh

[Deathfrombelow23]

I prefer the VIIB. It is 500 less renown and if you look, it has a longer submerged range than the VIIC by 10 KM or so -- this helps because I do not feel the need to upgrade to the longer-lasting batteries when they become available later (= less renown spent). Not to mention that it's just slightly faster than the VIIC. The extra 3 seconds of dive time that the C has is of no significance to me. I doubt 3 seconds is going to make THAT much difference. Once you're down to about 9-10 meters or so, you become very difficult to hit with a deck gun and 3 seconds later you're passing periscope depth. I like the way the VIIB's look too. In real life, I believe the VIIC's had slightly longer range and could dive a bit deeper, but I am not sure if this is modeled in the game. Someone was saying the VIIC has more hitpoints??? Please, DO TELL!!!!

[Graf Paper]

Well, now I'm just merely confused instead of uncertain. lol

So the biggest differences between the VIIB and VIIC is as follows:

VIIB - Faster surface and subsurface speeds and longer endurance submerged.

VIIC - More durable and greater maximum dive depth with marginally quicker dive times.

At least this is what I've gathered so far from everybody's replies so far.

Having more options for future upgrades, especially radar, sonar, and anything else that helps to increase your advantage would definitely tip matters in favor of the VIIC....unless those same options are also available for the VIIB. I could really care less about deck/flak guns as I try never to put my boat in a position where using them is needed except for finishing off a merchant you don't want to waste any more torpedoes with just to sink them.

[kiwi_2005]

flip a coin.

Thats what i do none of this deep thinking about what im going to choose the coin decides every time

Originally Posted by Graf Paper

Well, now I'm just merely confused instead of uncertain. lol

So the biggest differences between the VIIB and VIIC is as follows:

VIIB - Faster surface and subsurface speeds and longer endurance submerged.

VIIC - More durable and greater maximum dive depth with marginally quicker dive times.

At least this is what I've gathered so far from everybody's replies so far.

Having more options for future upgrades, especially radar, sonar, and anything else that helps to increase your advantage would definitely tip matters in favor of the VIIC....unless those same options are also available for the VIIB. I could really care less about deck/flak guns as I try never to put my boat in a position where using them is needed except for finishing off a merchant you don't want to waste any more torpedoes with just to sink them.

That is the biggest advantage of VIIC: more upgrades are available later in the war.
You could also save money and switch to IX and sink some Yankees.

[NealT]

Agreed. Goes further and faster, deeper and faster, and you can get more upgrades.

Besides...with GWX 2.0 mods you can even have one that has missile silos build right into the decking...

[froschman]

I have seem the renown system as a way to simulate how BdU will handle the Kaleuns. The more successful a Kaleun is, the faster he will get new uboats, better crew and new equipment.

There is no meaning just to save renown point to get into some high point list at the end of the war. I use it to choose between alternatives, but I use up my renown points when I can get something I want.

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Indeed it matters, in fact it does the business BECAUSE it's pretty !
Look at WW II era french subs, they perform as they look :rotfl:

No no no! A boat is like a penis - size doesn't matter at all, so it doesn't have to be large. Instead it has to be long and thick.

[melendir]

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

No no no! A boat is like a penis - size doesn't matter at all, so it doesn't have to be large. Instead it has to be long and thick.

As Dr. Evil said in Austin Powers 3: "Welcome to my submarine lair. It's long and hard and full of seamen." :rotfl: