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FIREWALL · 01-08-08, 09:31 PM

I hope one of you great members can help me figure what went wrong with my rig.

I'll start with specs then what started to happen and then what i've attempted and results as it stands now.

Intel P4 2.4oa GHz 1mb L2 Cach 533 Mhz PGA-478
Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G
2GB DDR 400 RAM
NiVidia GeFORCE 7600GT 512 mb ddr2 8x
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MAXTOR 320 sata hdd x2
ULTRA X-CONNECT2 550 watt
ULTRA XG Quantum case
Septre 22" widescreen 1200:1 2ms 1680x1050

Was doing same thing i'm doing now and clicked sumit and it locked up.
Lostall control over comp.Wouldn't let END PROGRAM and cursor was locked. Had to hit restart button. It rebooted and still locked up.
Hit start button and at first rebooted then finally wouldn't reboot and just black screen. Had to manualy shut down. In the end it would start to reboot but would shtdown on it;s own in about 5 seconds.

Have swapped out vid card with 6600gt that was in my working shop rig so I know it's good. No luck. Then swapped in same CPU still no luck.

CPU fan that gets power from MB is spinning so I'm figureing MB is OK.

I've done all I can think of and need any and all help I can get.

I'm at the moment useing a borrowed laptop so I'll be awhile checking back.

Thank You to all in advance.

FIREWALL

Peto · 01-08-08, 09:35 PM

Check the hard drive... If your files are being corrupted, it can cause this kind of behavior...

Seth8530 · 01-08-08, 09:43 PM

Is your MOBO shorting out? If there is enough dust on your MOBO it could assorb moistore and cause it to short out making it reboot like that. Try reformating your drive.

lesrae · 01-09-08, 01:14 AM

How about software/virus or a driver issue?

If you reboot into safe mode, does the same thing happen?

01-09-08, 02:00 AM

I had very similar behaviour when my C: drive went boom , If it is your Boot HDD then theres only one thing you can do , buy a new HDD and startover

3Jane · 01-09-08, 05:00 AM

From similar experiences with my own machine, I think it might be an idea to replace all the data cables to your hard drives. SATA cables are very susceptible to damage. That would be my place to look before you spend money on new drives. As SATA data cables are fairly cheap, buy at least two sets to try incase of batch errors in production. As others have said, one of the drives could be the source of the problem.

Skybird · 01-09-08, 05:59 AM

Remove one item at a time and see if rebooting functions: RAM bars (if you have several), soundcard, graphics card, USB-connected items, i short: remove everything that is not vital for windows booting. If any of these items is damaged, it could interrupt the booting sequence.

TarJak · 01-09-08, 06:04 AM

It does sound like either a MB or HDD hardware problem. If you've installed a new card or RAM or anything that is likely to flex the MB, then it may be a fracture. If no hardware has been recently changed it's most likely HDD related.

FIREWALL · 01-09-08, 03:20 PM

Hi Guys

Thx for responding in my time of need.

I have some new info. I can only hope it further helps in solveing my problem.

This morning I tried a bootup and got a yellow triangle in center of monitor. Inside this triangle is an icon of a computer case on left to the right a red ! mark in center, below it a red X and to the right of the red ! mark a icon of a monitor.

My friend brought over his LCD and 7800 GS vid card and got same image.
He has no idea either whats going wrong on my rig.

I hope this can narrow things a bit maybe.

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I used a borrowed laptop to post thread yesterday. Good God it had white keys with black letters.

It was blinding me to use it.

I bought a new laptop last nite so I can look and reply to all posts.
First thing I saw was pic and link to post #128 about Leo\Dave and I just couldn't bring myself to come to this thread.

Will post on new thread with specs if anyones interested.

Thanks Again for all help and replys.

SUBMAN1 · 01-09-08, 03:25 PM

That sounds like a 90% chance your Power Supply just went south for the winter - permanently.

Try a new PSU.

BIOS or some other thing like the Northbridge could also be going bad, but I'd seriously suspect your PSU (based on the info you have provided - this is my best guess).

-S

FIREWALL · 01-09-08, 05:42 PM

Thx SUBMAN1 But it's not PS. Have a 600watt backup that has been never used that came with case and no difference.

Just to be on the safe side my buddy figured since most of his rig was already here he, went and got the rest of it and with a working puter we step by step swapped everthing out one by one testing as we went along and had same responce.

sonar732 · 01-09-08, 06:56 PM

Since you swapped out everything, the only thing left is your mobo.

SUBMAN1 · 01-09-08, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonar732

Since you swapped out everything, the only thing left is your mobo.

Yep.

FIREWALL · 01-09-08, 08:51 PM

I'm worried that might be the case.

I have another friend bringing over a 3.0 478 socket cpu in about an hour that is currently working in his spare rig.

This is about the only thing left but the mobo.

Please everybody find something else " cheap " that I can test.

Thx Again Everybody and keep the ideas comming.

SUBMAN1 · 01-09-08, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I'm worried that might be the case.

I have another friend bringing over a 3.0 478 socket cpu in about an hour that is currently working in his spare rig.

This is about the only thing left but the mobo.

Please everybody find something else " cheap " that I can test.

Thx Again Everybody and keep the ideas comming.

Look at it as a learning experience. You are probably pretty good at troublshooting by now, no? Sounds like you've tried everything!

01-08-08, 09:35 PM	#2
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Check the hard drive... If your files are being corrupted, it can cause this kind of behavior... __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

01-08-08, 09:43 PM	#3
Seth8530 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 546 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Is your MOBO shorting out? If there is enough dust on your MOBO it could assorb moistore and cause it to short out making it reboot like that. Try reformating your drive. __________________

01-09-08, 01:14 AM	#4
lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	How about software/virus or a driver issue? If you reboot into safe mode, does the same thing happen? __________________ DOLPHIN 38

01-09-08, 05:00 AM	#6
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From similar experiences with my own machine, I think it might be an idea to replace all the data cables to your hard drives. SATA cables are very susceptible to damage. That would be my place to look before you spend money on new drives. As SATA data cables are fairly cheap, buy at least two sets to try incase of batch errors in production. As others have said, one of the drives could be the source of the problem. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

01-09-08, 05:59 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,727 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Remove one item at a time and see if rebooting functions: RAM bars (if you have several), soundcard, graphics card, USB-connected items, i short: remove everything that is not vital for windows booting. If any of these items is damaged, it could interrupt the booting sequence. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-08-08, 09:31 PM	#1
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	S.O.S. To All Susim Members Help I hope one of you great members can help me figure what went wrong with my rig. I'll start with specs then what started to happen and then what i've attempted and results as it stands now. Intel P4 2.4oa GHz 1mb L2 Cach 533 Mhz PGA-478 Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G 2GB DDR 400 RAM NiVidia GeFORCE 7600GT 512 mb ddr2 8x m MAXTOR 320 sata hdd x2 ULTRA X-CONNECT2 550 watt ULTRA XG Quantum case Septre 22" widescreen 1200:1 2ms 1680x1050 Was doing same thing i'm doing now and clicked sumit and it locked up. Lostall control over comp.Wouldn't let END PROGRAM and cursor was locked. Had to hit restart button. It rebooted and still locked up. Hit start button and at first rebooted then finally wouldn't reboot and just black screen. Had to manualy shut down. In the end it would start to reboot but would shtdown on it;s own in about 5 seconds. Have swapped out vid card with 6600gt that was in my working shop rig so I know it's good. No luck. Then swapped in same CPU still no luck. CPU fan that gets power from MB is spinning so I'm figureing MB is OK. I've done all I can think of and need any and all help I can get. I'm at the moment useing a borrowed laptop so I'll be awhile checking back. Thank You to all in advance. FIREWALL __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-09-08, 02:00 AM	#5
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I had very similar behaviour when my C: drive went boom , If it is your Boot HDD then theres only one thing you can do , buy a new HDD and startover

01-09-08, 06:04 AM	#8
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	It does sound like either a MB or HDD hardware problem. If you've installed a new card or RAM or anything that is likely to flex the MB, then it may be a fracture. If no hardware has been recently changed it's most likely HDD related.

01-09-08, 03:20 PM	#9
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi Guys Thx for responding in my time of need. I have some new info. I can only hope it further helps in solveing my problem. This morning I tried a bootup and got a yellow triangle in center of monitor. Inside this triangle is an icon of a computer case on left to the right a red ! mark in center, below it a red X and to the right of the red ! mark a icon of a monitor. My friend brought over his LCD and 7800 GS vid card and got same image. He has no idea either whats going wrong on my rig. I hope this can narrow things a bit maybe. Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I used a borrowed laptop to post thread yesterday. Good God it had white keys with black letters. It was blinding me to use it. I bought a new laptop last nite so I can look and reply to all posts. First thing I saw was pic and link to post #128 about Leo\Dave and I just couldn't bring myself to come to this thread. Will post on new thread with specs if anyones interested. Thanks Again for all help and replys. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-09-08, 03:25 PM	#10
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That sounds like a 90% chance your Power Supply just went south for the winter - permanently. Try a new PSU. BIOS or some other thing like the Northbridge could also be going bad, but I'd seriously suspect your PSU (based on the info you have provided - this is my best guess). -S __________________

01-09-08, 05:42 PM	#11
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Thx SUBMAN1 But it's not PS. Have a 600watt backup that has been never used that came with case and no difference. Just to be on the safe side my buddy figured since most of his rig was already here he, went and got the rest of it and with a working puter we step by step swapped everthing out one by one testing as we went along and had same responce. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-09-08, 06:56 PM	#12
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Since you swapped out everything, the only thing left is your mobo.

01-09-08, 08:51 PM	#14
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I'm worried that might be the case. I have another friend bringing over a 3.0 478 socket cpu in about an hour that is currently working in his spare rig. This is about the only thing left but the mobo. Please everybody find something else " cheap " that I can test. Thx Again Everybody and keep the ideas comming. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???