I can't hit the back of a barn.

Snakeeyes · 01-06-08, 05:30 PM

Okay... merchants are one thing but geese, I decided to take it to the Nips.

I stood off and waited to see if I can find the Midway Japanese task force. Found it. Managed to sneak in close enough to get the speed from tender as an escort then was able to pull off a snap shot on a Kongo Battleship. Sank that guy' ass with 4 torpedoes and hauled out of there.

Now... On the way back to Midway to reload I encountered the task force on the way home. I managed to get a decent, well distant-medium range shot at an escort carrier. Here she is as big as... well... an AIRCRAFT CARRIER and I set up the attack.

She does not appear as if she's zigging like the rest of the task force and appears to be on a steady course. She's off the bow about 30 degrees moving to the left. I'm guessing the speed to be about 9 knots. Yamato is off to my port side, closer than the carrier but she's zigging like crazy. I'm not wasting my 4 torperoes on him. Believe me I've tried.

I lock in the carrier. I set the angle on his bow to be about 276 degrees. I take the range carefully but his flag is quite easliy seen. I make 3 ranges. I really am squinting... I WANT this fatt ass on the bottom.

I enter the speed in. I have my weapon settings ready. Medium speed contact only.

First shot set to zero off. Second 3 to the left. Third 2 degrees to the right. Fourth set to 1 degree to the left.

I shoot and turn the scope to the left to check their wakes. Ummm..... not turning slightly to the right at all. Bastards just swim to the visible horizon and disappear.

I think it's a fluke. I try it again... and again... and again... Nothing. I try switching to slower speed on the torps hoping that at higher speed I lost range. Nothing.

I mean, I tried this for an hour and a half.
Anyone ever hd this problem? You PC doesn't see that you have entered speed into firing solution?

What am I doing wrong here? I'm not a noob at this. I'm running with Trigger Maru but I'm sure that it's not affectig my torps or is it?

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-07-08, 10:28 AM

I don't use TM so not sure. I had an Escort Carrier in my sight. Distance under 2000m, speed 7knts and almost 90 degees to my bow. Perfect. However from experience these ships can turn on a dime.

So I set my angle between 10 to 15 degrees off her bow. Torp speed medium and set for contact. 1st torp is a dud, the next three hit home. Man, those carriers could blow up! What was the sea conditions like during your attack? Maybe that could be the problem? I made a torp run in rough weather and with despair saw my torps go under a heaving Cargo ship hull.

Snakeeyes · 01-07-08, 11:35 AM

It wasn't hurricane-force winds but I had to stay at 50 feet for the periscope to see over the crests of waves.

Today I go back to torpedo school.... I'm going to get home and DRILL over and over again on different targets until I've got it down.

How accurate is the computer at guessing speeds?

AVGWarhawk · 01-07-08, 11:43 AM

The speed calculation is only as good as your data input. ID the ship correctly. Get initial data and send to TDC. Wait about 10 seconds (over simplified here) and take the data again and send to TDC. At this point click on the little watch button and see what the attack teams says. I do this three to four times until they come up with the same kts twice. This is what I use as the speed.

hyperion2206 · 01-07-08, 11:48 AM

I would guess that the speed is wrong. I mean 9 knots is awefully slow for an undamaged carrier, especially when they return from a battle that was lost. If I were you I would set the speed to about 15 to 18 kts and see if that makes a difference.

Gino · 01-07-08, 12:47 PM

I found that the 'trick' with the 2 minutes 58 seconds really works nicely. Then you know what it should be. And together with the speed estimate of the plotting party (the little watch button) you should be correct.

Mind that you cannot rush your setup, it only rushes the torpedoes out of the tubes to 'somewhere in the ocean' Just like the real thing...

groetjes,

Snakeeyes · 01-07-08, 09:31 PM

I think that my targets are too far off the bow of my boat. Ideally you want it at zero. I find that American torpedoes of this era take a while to turn once launched versus German fish.

CapnScurvy · 01-08-08, 09:02 AM

Maybe you need a stationary target "Shooting Gallery". Try this link to a mission I uploaded to FileFront and get a shot of courage back. The install instructions are in the Readme. The mission will appear in the "Quick Mission" menu of the game. Set your Realism options to whatever you like. The mission was to compare my mod to the standard game for accuracy, but you can use it for practice.

http://files.filefront.com/SCAF+Rang.../fileinfo.html

I also have another mission with a fat juicy tanker cutting across your bow, which could help in your recovery. Try this download link:

http://files.filefront.com/High+Real.../fileinfo.html

Take these two pills, and call me in the morning.

Snakeeyes · 01-08-08, 10:28 AM

Thanks man.

Actually, it's not the stationary I have troubles with... moving warships have been screwing me recently. I drilled at home against the Midway battlegroup for 2 hours last night and have been doing better. I need to be more patient with speed measurements or learn to guess them better.

Snakeeyes · 01-08-08, 10:29 AM

Thanks man.

Actually, it's not the stationary I have troubles with... moving warships have been screwing me recently. I drilled at home against the Midway battlegroup for 2 hours last night and have been doing better. I need to be more patient with speed measurements or learn to guess them better.

Oh... I went to UD!

Is peanut butter still $5 at Rudy's Fly-by? LOL!

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-08-08, 10:37 AM

I don't ever place my aim at dead zero unless the target is stationary or I'm within 1000m of it. I ususally place my bow between 10-20 degrees within 3200m. Warships in particular can accelerate quickly when they detect a torp.

CapnScurvy · 01-09-08, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakeeyes

Oh... I went to UD!

Is peanut butter still $5 at Rudy's Fly-by? LOL!

I don't know about the peanut butter, but the Pine Club still has the best steak in town. I attended Wright State, many a year ago.

Good luck on hitting that barn!!

01-06-08, 05:30 PM	#1
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I can't hit the back of a barn. Okay... merchants are one thing but geese, I decided to take it to the Nips. I stood off and waited to see if I can find the Midway Japanese task force. Found it. Managed to sneak in close enough to get the speed from tender as an escort then was able to pull off a snap shot on a Kongo Battleship. Sank that guy' ass with 4 torpedoes and hauled out of there. Now... On the way back to Midway to reload I encountered the task force on the way home. I managed to get a decent, well distant-medium range shot at an escort carrier. Here she is as big as... well... an AIRCRAFT CARRIER and I set up the attack. She does not appear as if she's zigging like the rest of the task force and appears to be on a steady course. She's off the bow about 30 degrees moving to the left. I'm guessing the speed to be about 9 knots. Yamato is off to my port side, closer than the carrier but she's zigging like crazy. I'm not wasting my 4 torperoes on him. Believe me I've tried. I lock in the carrier. I set the angle on his bow to be about 276 degrees. I take the range carefully but his flag is quite easliy seen. I make 3 ranges. I really am squinting... I WANT this fatt ass on the bottom. I enter the speed in. I have my weapon settings ready. Medium speed contact only. First shot set to zero off. Second 3 to the left. Third 2 degrees to the right. Fourth set to 1 degree to the left. I shoot and turn the scope to the left to check their wakes. Ummm..... not turning slightly to the right at all. Bastards just swim to the visible horizon and disappear. I think it's a fluke. I try it again... and again... and again... Nothing. I try switching to slower speed on the torps hoping that at higher speed I lost range. Nothing. I mean, I tried this for an hour and a half. Anyone ever hd this problem? You PC doesn't see that you have entered speed into firing solution? What am I doing wrong here? I'm not a noob at this. I'm running with Trigger Maru but I'm sure that it's not affectig my torps or is it? __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

01-07-08, 11:35 AM	#3
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	It wasn't hurricane-force winds but I had to stay at 50 feet for the periscope to see over the crests of waves. Today I go back to torpedo school.... I'm going to get home and DRILL over and over again on different targets until I've got it down. How accurate is the computer at guessing speeds? __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

01-07-08, 11:43 AM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The speed calculation is only as good as your data input. ID the ship correctly. Get initial data and send to TDC. Wait about 10 seconds (over simplified here) and take the data again and send to TDC. At this point click on the little watch button and see what the attack teams says. I do this three to four times until they come up with the same kts twice. This is what I use as the speed. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-07-08, 11:48 AM	#5
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I would guess that the speed is wrong. I mean 9 knots is awefully slow for an undamaged carrier, especially when they return from a battle that was lost. If I were you I would set the speed to about 15 to 18 kts and see if that makes a difference. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

01-07-08, 12:47 PM	#6
Gino Pacific Sub Expert Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 148 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	I found that the 'trick' with the 2 minutes 58 seconds really works nicely. Then you know what it should be. And together with the speed estimate of the plotting party (the little watch button) you should be correct. Mind that you cannot rush your setup, it only rushes the torpedoes out of the tubes to 'somewhere in the ocean' Just like the real thing... groetjes, __________________ Gino

01-07-08, 10:28 AM	#2
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	I don't use TM so not sure. I had an Escort Carrier in my sight. Distance under 2000m, speed 7knts and almost 90 degees to my bow. Perfect. However from experience these ships can turn on a dime. So I set my angle between 10 to 15 degrees off her bow. Torp speed medium and set for contact. 1st torp is a dud, the next three hit home. Man, those carriers could blow up! What was the sea conditions like during your attack? Maybe that could be the problem? I made a torp run in rough weather and with despair saw my torps go under a heaving Cargo ship hull.

01-07-08, 09:31 PM	#7
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I think that my targets are too far off the bow of my boat. Ideally you want it at zero. I find that American torpedoes of this era take a while to turn once launched versus German fish. __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

01-08-08, 10:28 AM	#9
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Thanks man. Actually, it's not the stationary I have troubles with... moving warships have been screwing me recently. I drilled at home against the Midway battlegroup for 2 hours last night and have been doing better. I need to be more patient with speed measurements or learn to guess them better. __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

01-08-08, 10:29 AM	#10
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Thanks man. Actually, it's not the stationary I have troubles with... moving warships have been screwing me recently. I drilled at home against the Midway battlegroup for 2 hours last night and have been doing better. I need to be more patient with speed measurements or learn to guess them better. Oh... I went to UD! Is peanut butter still $5 at Rudy's Fly-by? LOL! __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

01-08-08, 10:37 AM	#11
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	I don't ever place my aim at dead zero unless the target is stationary or I'm within 1000m of it. I ususally place my bow between 10-20 degrees within 3200m. Warships in particular can accelerate quickly when they detect a torp.